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newmei

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Don't ask me how but I got a job offer from both the FAA and a foreign airline in Central America. I am low time my US standards (regional material easily) but I had a enough contacts from my girlfriends family to slide in to right seat in a 737. Also I got a job offer from the FAA as a General Ops inspector. I know I am going to get flamed about the FAA, personally I think I'd fit in. I am by the book regulation type of guy. Pros and Cons please? I mean I know 737 time is valuable but where is this industry going? Will foreign airline time matter if I choose to come back to the US to work? I will be able to live in Florida even if I fly for the foreign carrier. As far as the FAA, its steady, its a government job with benefits. There is the possiblity of maybe getting the SE (fl) or the NE US which I don't care for, cold dreary!


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Live in Florida, work for a foreign airline, fly a 737.

What is the pay the foreign airline? Is it comparable to U.S. standards. You are going to be living in Florida.

If the pay is standard for a 1st year 737 FO, I'd take the 737 job.
 
What do you want?

Security or risk? When you turn 45 years old and you are looking for your fifth job you may have better insight. You may be hoping to land one than will pay you in the $40-$50K, you will look at that FAA job that will probably be in the GS-14 step 5 $100K per year. You will think, did I make the right choice. When you are unemployed starting salary is hard to negotiate. The benefits of a gov’t employee are unbeatable. However it is the ultimate bureaucracy. The FAA is a hard place to break into, their hiring practices are difficult to understand, and you may not get the FAA offer again.

 
Quote from ride the wind

"The FAA job offer has got to be flame, not with 1900 hours"



http://jobs.faa.gov/announcement_detail.asp?vac_id=27152

The above link is to the full bid announcement, below is lifted from it as applies to GA ops inspectors. Having been a former Government employee and working with the FSDO at times, I know many to have come to the FAA at the point in their careers where they were transitioning from regionals to a major or from the military to the civilian world. Also known a few who came straight from CFI with a bit of right seat time in a Citation.

General Aviation Operations Inspectors: General aviation operations inspectors are responsible for single and multiengine aircraft (including multiengine aircraft over 12,500 pounds gross takeoff weight) used for pleasure, air taxi service, industry, and agriculture. Some of their duties are to: * Examine airmen (pilots, flight instructors, etc.) for initial and continuing certification; * Evaluate airmen training programs, equipment, and facilities; * Evaluate the operations of air taxis and similar commercial aviation operations for adequacy of facilities, equipment, procedures, and overall management to ensure safe operation of the aircraft; and * Investigate and report on accidents, incidents, and violations. To qualify for general aviation operations inspector positions, applicants must possess the following qualifications: * An airline transport pilot certificate or commercial pilot certificate with instrument airplane rating; * Single and multiengine land airplane ratings; * A valid flight instructor certificate with single and multiengine airplane and instrument airplane ratings; * Pilot experience which provided a comprehensive knowledge of operations requirements, facilities, practices, procedures, and flight activities of aircraft; * A minimum of 1,500 total flight hours as a pilot or copilot; * Some aviation work experience within the last 10 years; * A minimum of 300 flight hours within the last 3 years; * A minimum of 1,000 flight hours within the last 5 years; * Professional flying skill as demonstrated in a flight check to commercial pilot certificate with an instrument rating standard; and * Not more than 2 flying accidents within the last 5 years.

Pilotyip did an excellent job of contrasting the two paths.

Out of interest how long after submitting the app (electronic or paper?) did you get an initial call and what was the process like. Did you know someone at the FSDO? I keep contemplating going back to the Gov so I'm curious the way things went.
 
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1900 hours is not in the ball park to be competitive for a FAA Inspector position. Of course, if the applicant is the right sex or skin color, or has the right sponsor, anything is possible. A few years back they hired about 10-15 folks with bare Commercial ASEL certificates and less than 500 hours. Most of 'em washed out, but some are now full-fledged Operations Inspectors.
 
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newmei said:
I got a job offer from the FAA as a General Ops inspector. I know I am going to get flamed about the FAA, personally I think I'd fit in. I am by the book regulation type of guy . . . . As far as the FAA, its steady, its a government job with benefits . . . . . .
Assuming this is a real offer and you would temper justice with mercy, unlike many "by the book regulation types of guys," I would consider the ASI job very seriously. I have to agree with Yip (for a change):
pilotyip said:
Security or risk? When you turn 45 years old and you are looking for your fifth job you may have better insight. You may be hoping to land one than will pay you in the $40-$50K, you will look at that FAA job that will probably be in the GS-14 step 5 $100K per year. You will think, did I make the right choice. When you are unemployed starting salary is hard to negotiate. The benefits of a gov’t employee are unbeatable . . . . The FAA is a hard place to break into, their hiring practices are difficult to understand, and you may not get the FAA offer again.
(emphasis added)

As you get a little older, or, depending on your point of view, grow up a little, job security looks awfully good, especially after you have had a few jobs and have had to change jobs for various reasons. Not to mention the great benefits of working for the government. Moreover, Yip is absolutely right about the job offer; you may never be offered the job again.

I applied for an ASI job thirteen years ago. Requirements were virtually identical to regional mins of the day, 1500 total and at least all airplane ratings through MEI. I got on the register with a decent score. I received some sort of mail from the Indianapolis FSDO. I had moved and it was forwarded to me. I tried to call the number on the mail several times but something was wrong with the phone number and I could not reach anyone. I never heard again from the FAA. Therefore, frankly, if I were you I would jump at it as soon as possible. It may be a long time before the register opens again.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
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I meet the quals. The profile is not up to date, in addition I have previous government employment, which helped with alot of the red tape.

Thanks for the advice.
 

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