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satpak77

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Went to get my FAA medical, I enter the room and walk towards the bench/exam chair, doc tells me to "keep standing" and checks my BP, while he pumps the cuff up and almost kills my arm circulation, he starts to chit chat with me.

BP was 150 over 90. Doc says "whoa, you stressed out?" and rechecks it, now its 155.

Sends me home with a cardiac eval worksheet for my "personal doc" to fax back.

I get home, check my BP, in the SEATED position, its 133 over 77 !!!!! WTF OVER ! Now I have to jump thru hoops because the test was done arguably improperly?

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...ech/item55/et/

In accordance with accepted clinical procedures, routine blood pressure should be taken with the applicant in the seated position.

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Daddy

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I recommend finding a guy who is not a ****************************** bag...it is worth the money since it is your ticket on the line and most of those type guys are cash-only operations. Wherever you are, there will be a guy who will not fail anyone with a pulse that can fill out a check
 

Daddy

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I guess the f-bomb and s-h-i-t are out as well, but bitch it okay
 

BoilerUP

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Go to another AME and call the regional flight surgeon with details of this event...you'll be off the hook and the AME in question will get a friendly reminder about professionalism.
 

Motive Flow

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Wow, that stinks.

Isn't the max BP for the medical 155/95?

Hopefully it's not too difficult to get this corrected.

Might be a good idea to let the local pilots know about this doctor's conduct. A few "informational flyers" at the local FBO's and flight schools may go a long way.

Good Luck!
 

satpak77

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additional - I am PISSED

check this out from American Heart Association, for DOCS

http://hyper.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/45/1/142

[SIZE=+1]Blood Pressure Measurement in the Clinic or Office[/SIZE]

Subject Preparation
A number of factors related to the subject can cause significant deviations in measured blood pressure. These include room temperature, exercise, alcohol or nicotine consumption, positioning of the arm, muscle tension, bladder distension, talking, and background noise.28 The patient should be asked to remove all clothing that covers the location of cuff placement. The individual should be comfortably seated, with the legs uncrossed, and the back and arm supported, such that the middle of the cuff on the upper arm is at the level of the right atrium (the mid-point of the sternum). Measurements made while the patient is on an examining table do not fulfill these criteria and should preferably be made while the patient is seated in a chair. At the initial visit, blood pressure should be measured in both arms. The patient should be instructed to relax as much as possible and to not talk during the measurement procedure; ideally, 5 minutes should elapse before the first reading is taken.

Effects of Body Position
Blood pressure measurement is most commonly made in either the sitting or the supine position, but the 2 positions give different measurements. It is widely accepted that diastolic pressure measured while sitting is higher than when measured supine (by
5 mm Hg), although there is less agreement about systolic pressure.88 When the arm position is meticulously adjusted so that the cuff is at the level of the right atrium in both positions, the systolic pressure has been reported to be 8 mm Hg higher in the supine than the upright position.89
Other considerations include the position of the back and legs. If the back is not supported (as when the patient is seated on an examination table as opposed to a chair), the diastolic pressure may be increased by 6 mm Hg.90 Crossing the legs may raise systolic pressure by 2 to 8 mm Hg.91
In the supine position, the right atrium is approximately halfway between the bed and the level of the sternum92; thus, if the arm is resting on the bed, it will be below heart level. For this reason, when measurements are taken in the supine position the arm should be supported with a pillow. In the sitting position, the right atrium level is the midpoint of the sternum or the fourth intercostal space.

[SIZE=-1]Important Points for Clinical Blood Pressure Measurement[/SIZE]


  • The patient should be seated comfortably with the back supported and the upper arm bared without constrictive clothing. The legs should not be crossed.
  • The arm should be supported at heart level, and the bladder of the cuff should encircle at least 80% of the arm circumference.
  • The mercury column should be deflated at 2 to 3 mm/s, and the first and last audible sounds should be taken as systolic and diastolic pressure. The column should be read to the nearest 2 mm Hg.
  • Neither the patient nor the observer should talk during the measurement.
 

Paul R. Smith

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Went to get my FAA medical, I enter the room and walk towards the bench/exam chair, doc tells me to "keep standing" and checks my BP, while he pumps the cuff up and almost kills my arm circulation, he starts to chit chat with me.

BP was 150 over 90. Doc says "whoa, you stressed out?" and rechecks it, now its 155.

Sends me home with a cardiac eval worksheet for my "personal doc" to fax back.

I get home, check my BP, in the SEATED position, its 133 over 77 !!!!! WTF OVER ! Now I have to jump thru hoops because the test was done arguably improperly?

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...ech/item55/et/



advice, comments.

Must know location and Doctor's name!!!
 

GogglesPisano

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If you spend more than 5 minutes in the exam room -- you've gone to the wrong AME.
 

SFR

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Just start taking beta blockers a week before every medical...perfect blood pressure
 

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Never eat or drink high sugar drinks or food before going in either.

One increase in your urine glucose sends you down a similar path. I agree with everyone else, you need a new AME.

RF
 

satpak77

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will get a new AME, this one owns me a little bit because he is awaiting my "follow up" from my personal doc. Gonna keep things friendly for now.

Next year, new guy tho.
 

crj567

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will get a new AME, this one owns me a little bit because he is awaiting my "follow up" from my personal doc. Gonna keep things friendly for now.

Next year, new guy tho.

Dude-

You at least need to let all the locals know what a damn fool this guy is! His business will dry up to nothing, and he will probably no longer be interested in being an AME-everyone will be far better off.....

DR. dumbass caused you a lot of trouble-so don't be shy about repaying the favor. Once a couple of locals find out what this clown pulled, word will spread far and wide! The aviation community is very small, and clowns like this should never be tolerated!

-Drop the hammer on him.
 

GogglesPisano

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Never eat or drink high sugar drinks or food before going in either.

One increase in your urine glucose sends you down a similar path. I agree with everyone else, you need a new AME.

RF

Your AME makes you pee in a cup? :eek:

Run, don't walk away!!!!
 

ImbracableCrunk

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Are you ALPA? If so, I'd call aeromedical ASAP. Don't do anything to piss off the doc until he's got his grubby mitts off your medical.

I know some on here don't like ALPA, but their Aeromedical is very helpful.
 
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