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For pilots who work in the industry, you really don't know too much, do you?


Gee, let me think. How many time have I called in fatgiued as a f/a. Zero, maybe its because I have never been an f/a. Did I mention that airplanes fly better with out f/a s.
 
The FA needs to sit down with the Director of Inflight and the Director of Operations and explain the situation. If the FA was scheduled incorrectly, or they are short, maybe this needs to be brought up as a safety of flight issue. Calling off "fatigued" isn't usually an FA option depending on the contract.
 
The FA needs to sit down with the Director of Inflight and the Director of Operations and explain the situation. If the FA was scheduled incorrectly, or they are short, maybe this needs to be brought up as a safety of flight issue. Calling off "fatigued" isn't usually an FA option depending on the contract.


Calling in fatigued IS an Option. Not sure of the reg # but it says something to the effect that You will not show up as a "crewmember" unfit to fly. and if You are too fatigued to safely operate as a crewmember then you are obligated to call inn for safety reasons. it is the same section where it talks about drinking and medication .
 
Come on, she works for Eagle...they do not care cuz they can hire another f/a at the mall.

At Eagle, do not call in fatigued AT ALL EVER....if you are a f/a. Call in sick. If she was still on probation that is a bad thing and the union can't help.
 
Come on, she works for Eagle...they do not care cuz they can hire another f/a at the mall.

At Eagle, do not call in fatigued AT ALL EVER....if you are a f/a. Call in sick. If she was still on probation that is a bad thing and the union can't help.



They can't discipline her if she is following the letter of the law. Ask Management

" are you trying to coheres me into flying Illegal?"
 
I still say that unless the company screwed up the scheduling, it is the responsibilty of the employee to show up fit for work. If she was fatigued because of scheduling issues that's one thing. If she couldn't work because she stayed up too late, that's a different ball game. If she took medication or slammed a shot before going to work, then it would be her fault. Same thing with getting enough rest. No matter the circumstances, she will still need to sit down with her superiors for a 'splainin' session.
 
FARs for Flight Attendants?

Ugh... think again.


Just because the now have an "Airman Certificate" don't go thinking there are FARs for duty, etc. Just training I suspect.

Wrong. Look at 121.467. Certain FARs do cover flight attendants too.
 
A F/A being fatigued can be vary subjective. We have longer work rules than pilots. We can work as many hours as our contract and the FAR's will allow (14hrs and the 24 in 7). So unless the contract has a "no occurance for fatigue clause" then yes it will be treated as a missed assignment. The FAA does not tell companies how disiplinary actions can be assigned even when it comes to a FAR that can at most time be very subjective. That comes from having a weak union that didn't think to put it in the contract. It may be easier to take the occurance but if she feels up to it maybe she should pursue it throught the union and at the same time be looking for another carrier.
 

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