F9 Shrinking - Lynx GROWING .......

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Time will tell........

The success of Frontier Airlines’ Lynx subsidiary could prompt the Denver-based carrier to add more turboprops to its fleet than originally planned, Frontier Airlines CEO and President Sean Menke said Monday.
Speaking to about 285 people at an aviation seminar in Aspen, Menke said the airline is looking at speeding up the delivery schedule for some of its new, 74-seat Bombardier Q400 turboprop aircraft. The planes are used for short-haul destinations, including Aspen, Jackson Hole and Grand Junction, and burn 30 percent less fuel than a regional jet similar in size.
Denver-based Frontier currently operates 10 turboprop planes, with the option to acquire 10 more from Bombardier in the next couple years.
“We are exercising options for 10 more and looking at picking up additional aircraft,” Menke said at The Boyd Group Aviation Summit in Aspen — a three-day conference hosted by Evergreen-based The Boyd Group, an aviation consulting firm.
Menke is evaluating how the carrier can advance the delivery of 10 turboprops Frontier has ordered from 2010 to 2009.
And, as Frontier is shedding jetliners from its fleet as it navigates Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, it wants to purchase more Q400s. How many it would buy hasn’t been determined.
Bankruptcy protection allowed Frontier to break ties with its regional partner Republic Airways, which resulted in the elimination of six flights from Frontier’s schedule.
Republic operated 12 Embraer 170 jets, each with a capacity of 76 seats.
Aspen/Pitkin County Airport officials spoke highly of the new Lynx service.
“They’ve done really well up here,” said David Ulane, assistant aviation director at Aspen’s airport. “We were a little apprehensive at first, but they’ve added a couple thousand passengers [to the airport].”
Lynx flies four daily nonstop flights from Denver to Aspen, seven days a week.
“We’ve seen a correlation in parking revenue, so it’s been really successful,” Ulane said.
 

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Yeah, on the outside it seems bad. I guess I'm impressed that a management has figured out that the Q400 should do almost everything inside of 300nm. F the whole prop aura. If you want to survive, turboprops can only help.
 

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Yeah, on the outside it seems bad. I guess I'm impressed that a management has figured out that the Q400 should do almost everything inside of 300nm. F the whole prop aura. If you want to survive, turboprops can only help.
I think you missed the point.....completely. Hint: It has nothing to do with the airplane.
 

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No, I got your point. You think Lynx sucks because their pay is low, they have no union, and Frontier is furloughing.

Looks like you are at Frontier, maybe furloughed. Suggest to someone Lynx is taking your jobs and mainline should be running the more efficient 320's three a day to everything Lynx does. Problem solved.
 

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Does this really suprise anyone???????
 

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No, I got your point. You think Lynx sucks because their pay is low, they have no union, and Frontier is furloughing.

Looks like you are at Frontier, maybe furloughed. Suggest to someone Lynx is taking your jobs and mainline should be running the more efficient 320's three a day to everything Lynx does. Problem solved.
You keep missing the point Propsync - it was another example of scope exploitation. I don't have a problem with Lynx.

Frontier pilots allowed this to happen on a certain level. Their scope is UNLIMITED 76 seat props.

It is just another example of mainline shrinking while their regional is growing..........

Nothing more - nothing less........but thanks for trying to flame it into something else. :laugh:
 

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Sounds to me like Frontier is carving a niche for itself in the market that will likely not be threatened by Southwest or United. The Q400 is a good plane for local western mountain flying. Good for them.
 

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Very glad to hear ASE's parking lot revenue is up.

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It's revenue that WN can't touch, thus it's good for the network. The 74 seat horses were let out of the barn a long time ago, so they might as well help us survive.
 

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As pilots, all we should care about is getting the most money and the most days off we can to take care of our families. We can not do that at Lynx. This is bad news for us. Sometimes smart business decisions are not in our best interests.
 

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Saw an E-170 with Frontier livery clearing GAC in KMIA. What's that about?
 

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Saw an E-170 with Frontier livery clearing GAC in KMIA. What's that about?
They are down there getting their Midwest Connect paint.....nice, ethical move by Bedford.....God B
less God Bless
 

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Sorry to read about this too..... :(

Frontier pilots agree to extend pay cut

By Denver Post news services

Article Last Updated: 10/13/2008 01:10:31 PM MDT



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Frontier Airlines said its pilots union agreed to extend interim pay cuts through Dec. 1.
The concessions were to expire Sept. 30, according to papers filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in New York where Frontier sought Chapter 11 protection in April. The pilots, represented by the Frontier Airline Pilots Association, voted to extend the concession agreement on Oct. 10 and Frontier filed papers seeking court approval of the extension on Oct. 11.
"The Pilot extension agreement provides benefits to the Debtors that they have determined are essential to their ongoing viability," Frontier's attorneys said in the filing.
The airline and the union continue to negotiate changes to the collective bargaining agreement, though they haven't yet reached final agreement, the company said in court papers. The union will have a $7.1 million unsecured claim in the bankruptcy as a result of the concessions. A hearing on the motion is scheduled for Oct. 30 before U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Robert Drain.
Frontier last month sought approval to void contracts with the International Brotherhood of Teamsters union and impose its own terms, including sending heavy maintenance work to another company and cutting 130 jobs, which Frontier says would save more than $5.6 million a year.
Frontier wants to cut costs by negotiating new contracts with workers as part of its reorganization. Last week, Frontier President and CEO Sean Menke said Monday the Lynx service to Aspen has done better than he expected. Lynx flew five daily flights during the summer and is now offering four daily flights during what's called the "shoulder season" before skiing starts.
 

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Small consolation, but the koolaid is getting less deep.

First temp paycuts passed by 84%
Extension passed by 55%
The next vote is for permanent changes, the vote that matters, hopefully the trend continues and the pilot group shows some balls....

....but for every militant pattern bargainer unionist there's an out-of-touch, happy-to-fly-jets-in-DEN type that is vulnerable to fear mongering.
 

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I voted NO!!!! But that doesn't matter now...


As far as Lynx growing...i heard (yep, another rumor until proven) that Lynx is currently profiting $2M per month. That is good for us right now, so maybe with a few more Q's we can eek out a little bit more profit from that operation.

Right now any profit is good, buy a lot of those suckers i say...just as long as they keep their operation making a profit.
 

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I voted NO!!!! But that doesn't matter now...


As far as Lynx growing...i heard (yep, another rumor until proven) that Lynx is currently profiting $2M per month. That is good for us right now, so maybe with a few more Q's we can eek out a little bit more profit from that operation.

Right now any profit is good, buy a lot of those suckers i say...just as long as they keep their operation making a profit.
Well I say STFD until pay and quality of life issues are addressed at Lynx.
 

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Stmfd

Not to be too picky, but I believe "STMFD" is the term. If I was allowed to vote
I say "NO". Believe me, you've got no friends in the F9 Management world.

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You wouldn't catch me dead on lynxx seeing that they circle to runway 33 at ASE.
 

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Umm.. what is so difficult about a circling approach?
 
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