Expressjet needs pilots bad!

[Tooslow]

Had a upper level management person ask me again for refferals of good pilots. Times need to be 1,200ish and a couple multi. 48 a month in class with a flush rate of 8 per month. They canceled atleast one upgrade class because they can't get enough FO's. Apply ASAP, this is the place to be!

 

[Standby 1]

Applied on line, called the number, did the phone screening and was told a "senior recuiter" would contact me in 60-90 days. I figure they can't be that desperate if it takes them 2-3 months to contact people after initial screening. Or maybe that's why they are in need of people....in the 2-3 months it takes them to contact an applicant, that pilot has already been hired by another regional who interviewed them quicker. Ah well....such is the business, right? Good luck to all of you looking for a job out there!



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[FlightTraker]

Raise your pay above Taco Bell, and maybe yoy can get more applicants

 

[NWA]

Tell your upper management to get rid of that bitch Dawn, and you'll have all the pilots you want.

 

[WSurf]

Taco Bell, why did you say that... Man, I gotta run, see ya... Trip to the boarder calls me. Man, what I can buy there with 5.00..

 

[727RedTails]

Why is the interview process so confrontational at expressjet?

 

[FSB99]

i didn't know it was..

 

[boxjockey]

Wasn't at all confrontational when I came through in Feb. Probably depends alot on who is doing the interviewing, and the attitude of the interviewee.


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[AZaviator]

Raise your pay above Taco Bell, and maybe yoy can get more applicants

The man has a point!

Anyone have an update on the contract negotiations??

 

[FlyChicaga]

Applied on line, called the number, did the phone screening and was told a "senior recuiter" would contact me in 60-90 days. I figure they can't be that desperate if it takes them 2-3 months to contact people after initial screening. Or maybe that's why they are in need of people....in the 2-3 months it takes them to contact an applicant, that pilot has already been hired by another regional who interviewed them quicker. Ah well....such is the business, right? Good luck to all of you looking for a job out there!

I applied online and was called back in two weeks for the phone screening. Also heard the 60-90 day call back. For those told this, how long did it take to be contacted?

Anyone know what the remaining hiring numbers will look like? Are all those hired from now on to expect a long time on reserve?

For those who keep track of such things, my times are 1020 TTL 675 ME 650 Turbine.

 

[FlyChicaga]

Anyone have an update on the contract negotiations??

Ditto the above. Are the main areas being looked at strictly pay, or are there large changes expected in work rules as well?

 

[Nova]

Ditto the above. Are the main areas being looked at strictly pay, or are there large changes expected in work rules as well?

Compensation (more than just pay rates) is all we have left which is still a lot considering these are the big items. Work rules has a lot of changes as well (for example we'll have a long/short call, fly/no fly/no preference reserve). We're back to the table in 2 weeks for 4 days (I believe).

The company is pushing for Comair similar pay but we won't settle for that (not that Comair settled but we hope to raise the bar unlike others who have followed). So worse case we be doing better than most if not all. We're back to the table in 2 weeks for 4 days of negotiations.

The problem you might run into by waiting is that once the contract is signed I'm sure the interest will increase in applying so competition for the last slots will grow.

 

[Tooslow]

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All we need is a contract before Comair takes cuts!

 

[flap operator]

Nova - best of luck trying to better Comair. I wish we did, but it's an uphill battle. Post mediocre contract it also opens your eyes to really what kind of an airline you are. Just remember that every airline is different. Some are exclusive jet service providers for their parent with more than 200 jets. Some aren't, with a sharp whipsaw and an alter ego carrier in the picture. Some fly for a mother carrier with some of the most strict scope out there. Some are mostly prop. We're all different. Also remember, it isn't all about pay. The it's the other airlines fault is a tired excuse.

FO

I voted no.

 

[Nova]

All we need is a contract before Comair takes cuts!

I think when "hell freezes over" is when those pilots will give anything back.

Nova - best of luck trying to better Comair. I wish we did, but it's an uphill battle. Post mediocre contract it also opens your eyes to really what kind of an airline you are. Just remember that every airline is different. Some are exclusive jet service providers for their parent with more than 200 jets. Some aren't, with a sharp whipsaw and an alter ego carrier in the picture. Some fly for a mother carrier with some of the most strict scope out there. Some are mostly prop. We're all different.

Airlines are different but the job is the same so pay should be the same. Because one outfit might still have turboprops on property vs. another that has 200 ERJ/CRJ's with no props in sight doesn't justify less pay, that's management you're listening to.

Also remember, it isn't all about pay.

Days off don't pay the bills.

 

[LJDRVR]

Tell your upper management to get rid of that bitch Dawn, and you'll have all the pilots you want.

That's pretty classy. Your willingsness to denigrate someone anonymously on a public board speaks volumes about your character. I thought Dawn was a consumate professional. The only behavior I saw that could have been labled as agressive, she directed torwards folks that simply did not have a clue. (Someone who shows up with a logbook that claims 500 hours of light twin dual given in 6 months with 250 hours of that actual IMC should expect some difficult questions concerning their integrity.)

I thought the interview process at Express Jet was a great experience. You'll have to answer some questions in front of everybody, so don't show up if you don't have you act together.

Some advice for the hopefuls would be this: This is a great job. Put some effort into your preparation. If they ask a question you don't know the answer to, just say you don't know.

 

[flap operator]

NOVA,

You're right, days off don't pay the bills. But why should you go to work and get treated like crap? Oh, you make a good hourly wage! My point is that work rules and pay go hand in hand. Training and testing, days off, min day or duty rigs, CDO provisions all make the contract, in addition to a good hourly wage.

You're also right... turboprop, jet, large, small, narrow or chubby, we all do the same thing. We transport people safely, efficiently, comnfortably and mostly ontime. But if your airline has 200+ jets and another airline has half your fleet you do the math. Do you think the revenue is the same? Do you think the profits are the same? Where do you think your pay comes from?

I'm not drinking anyones Koolaid. I prefer water. I'm thinking realistically and from the eyes of an outsider who just recently went through what you're going through now. It isn't easy and you're not going to get everything you want. I voted no for our contract because there were some glaring issues that didn't meet my satisfaction. But there are things in the contract that are good and are better now than our old contract.

It's a big game and after all airlines are businesses.


FO

 

[Nova]

My point is that work rules and pay go hand in hand.

I agree.

But if your airline has 200+ jets and another airline has half your fleet you do the math. Do you think the revenue is the same? Do you think the profits are the same? Where do you think your pay comes from?

If an operator makes $500 profit per hour on each airplane than it's obvious that a larger operator will see a larger total profit. But how does that affect what a pilot gets paid? If $85/hour plus retirement, work rules, per diem, etc. ends up costing a company $120 per block hour how would that number different at a different company? It wouldn't be. With pilot longevity being the exception Company A's contract would cost just as much if it was implimented at Company B.

Factor in different costs like different equipment, training costs, the cost of the other employees and yes a companies profits can vary. That doesn't mean that a company with a jet/turboprop mix is less able to afford another companies contract.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Just for fun I applied to Coex. The retarded interviewer asked a stupid question...

"What would you do if you heard a passenger complain about a bad landing when getting off the airplane?"

I said it depended on how the passenger said it, but that in all likelihood I would keep quiet. No sense coming across as a smart ass and getting in trouble over it.

Next day I get a letter saying I don't meet their experience and skills requirements.

3,693 hours in ERJs with more than 1000 as a Captain and I don't qualify. They must not need pilots too badly!

 

[NWA]

LJDRVR, I had a few drinks when I made my last post, and I shouldn't have used profanity. I've never met her, but I have a lot of friends that have interviewed with her, and they all said the same about her. I also have a buddy in the training dept. and they have received a lot of complaints about her. Maybe she's changed her style as of late.