ExpressJet JCBA is complete

[SoberIrishman]

Having taken some more time to read through this, I can see more negatives than before. Sitting on the fence on this, but looking more like NO for me.
However, someone please opine on the risks of the next stage (arbitration) as we move forward.

 

[centralpilot]

There will not be arbitration for the contract. The next step is years of NMB mediation.

 

[IFLYASA]

So there goes a good time out on a long layover. Say you're scheduled to DI the next day at noon so you plan on tying one on or whatever. Just before you head out you call and schd'g changes you to DI at O dark thirty to operate another flight or to DH somewhere where they need a body. Is that how I'm readingbthat?

NO!

Too bad you just had some adult beverages and won't be legal for that O dark 30 DI.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Too bad you just had some adult beverages and won't be legal for that O dark 30 DI.

That's not gonna fly. I foresee a carpet dance. Do it twice and you'll be on the way to a HIMS program.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

There will not be arbitration for the contract. The next step is years of NMB mediation.

During which time we keep what we have, and they wind up the operation a little faster than they otherwise would. A little longer life under that POS is going to be much, much less palatable, I assure you.

 

[waterskier]

Really expected a divide an conquer strategy, but other than the alpa reps, I can't see why anyone would vote for this. I agree with Oakum Boy, much rather keep what they have and go to the NMB. As much as I would like to get this and the SLI done, so I can change to a LXJT base, This is not worth it!! We have a lot of leverage, if the alpa reps won't use it, we need someone who will.
I think we need to start the process to get them off the property.
They remind me of the US congress.... voting them selves a pay-raise...
Have about the same level of respect for both groups....

 

[Nevets]

There will not be arbitration for the contract. The next step is years of NMB mediation.

Years of keeping what we have rather than conceding it?

That's not gonna fly. I foresee a carpet dance. Do it twice and you'll be on the way to a HIMS program.

What about tobacco chew? Or fatigue?

Really expected a divide an conquer strategy, but other than the alpa reps, I can't see why anyone would vote for this. I agree with Oakum Boy, much rather keep what they have and go to the NMB. As much as I would like to get this and the SLI done, so I can change to a LXJT base, This is not worth it!! We have a lot of leverage, if the alpa reps won't use it, we need someone who will.
I think we need to start the process to get them off the property.
They remind me of the US congress.... voting them selves a pay-raise...
Have about the same level of respect for both groups....

Looks like the recall process is under way at one of the local councils on the XJT side. They have a meeting on Dec 17.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

I'll be at the payphone at the corner of f and off

I think that's near "No F'kin' Way". That's where I'll be.

 

[bigshooter107]

Legacy ASA pilots should check out Manks comments on our ALPA web board.... Which no one reads. Why he was removed and offered to just sit in the office and make 6 hours a day...BTW I never read that crap just checked it out earlier today in lieu of the current situation.

 

[Freebrd]

Manks wrote something on there? Is that the dude who came up with PBS? Let me guess, he's exposing some of the inner goings on with TGE union? Love it. Hopefully they'll all be replaced soon.

NO!

 

[79%N1]

He didn't come up with pbs. The company said no way life goes on without pbs going forward. He found us the best system with work rules that benefitted us over other garbage the company wanted. Implementing it without a gun at our head gave us leverage, and most all would say they like it over our old system.

 

[ace6453]

He didn't come up with pbs. The company said no way life goes on without pbs going forward. He found us the best system with work rules that benefitted us over other garbage the company wanted. Implementing it without a gun at our head gave us leverage, and most all would say they like it over our old system.

He did a dam good job with PBS. Of course there's a couple things I'd like changed, but overall really good job. This TA takes that language and shoves it up our asses and leaves us with complete sht. Basically all the good points about PBS gone, just sht left to replace it.

 

[Freebrd]

Yeah I'm very content with PBS. Well I was until this POS was TA'd! So, what's Mank writing over on the ALPA board? I need to get a password one of these days.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Yeah I'm very content with PBS. Well I was until this POS was TA'd! So, what's Mank writing over on the ALPA board? I need to get a password one of these days.

Mank is coming out of this looking pretty professional and thoughtful.

We all knew this chit was going on. It seems he has had enough just like the rest of us.

We need to vote for a recall

NOW!!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I'm a no vote. That will be my "strike" vote. Aircraft will then be transferred to Skywest. If Skywest pilots don't want any more RJ flying, as PBR said, will they refuse to cross that line?

Well Nev,
I told (BH)to his face I wouldn't fly struck Comair flying under any circumstances. I will expect more than a few will throw upgrade parties. I will not be attending, or flying anything that the ASA MEC or ALPA defines as struck work....
You?

 

[paid4training]

If there were any pilot applicants(like myself) ain't gonna apply with this be goin' on!!! That's all someone needs is leave a job for a class date and sit In said class and then get kicked out like republic did during their contact talks!! That's gonna be all kinds of fun!!!

Redneck verbiage, just watched D.D. Marathon via dvr!!!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

They didn't fly any Comair flights, right? I'm just going off of what PBR said. I guess he is wrong.

My verbiage was imprecise, most SKYW pilots would rather be flying at mainline vs flying another RJ, yours or ours.

 

[paid4training]

And oh yea, if you wantta slow the company almost to a grinding stop; all pilots go and buy an old school pager. Use that number as your only contact and scheduling will implode because they have to wait for a call back. They will never get a trip covered in time. Just an idea...

 

[Nevets]

Well Nev,
I told (BH)to his face I wouldn't fly struck Comair flying under any circumstances. I will expect more than a few will throw upgrade parties. I will not be attending, or flying anything that the ASA MEC or ALPA defines as struck work....
You?

There won't be a strike. That's my point.

 

[russtgol]

And oh yea, if you wantta slow the company almost to a grinding stop; all pilots go and buy an old school pager. Use that number as your only contact and scheduling will implode because they have to wait for a call back. They will never get a trip covered in time. Just an idea...

You are all talk. Why don't you start the trend and buy a pager today? Leader or follower?