Expressjet ALPA question

[FinalOverERI]

SCAB free MEC!

I feel a new flight bag sticker comming on.

 

[InclusiveScope]

It should be noted that those CAL Reps that said this are SCABs. They are the CA and FO Reps of IAH LEC171, both of whom were hired during 1983 and vigorously oposed the merger with ALPA. The Reps from Guam joined them in their feud.

We had a very much support from the EWR and CLE LECs it is just that they were beaten down on by the IAH guys for so long. The SCABs threaten them with any kind of politcal action that they could think of all the way to personal legal action and threatening physical harm to other Rep's children. I was there and I heard it.

SCAB free MEC!

Capt. Caucasian,
Many of us warned you when you joined ALPA that this was a mistake. You didn't listen and it seems you still refuse to accept the reality that the mainline interests are opposed to the regional interests. ALPA national will back the interests of the mainline pilots even if it comes at the expense of the regional pilots. I would encourage the XJT pilots to not look back and to move forward as a SEPARATE pilot group. Do not support the mainline pilots attempt to limit your careers. You have now joined a large group of regional pilots that attempted over the years to work with the mainline pilots only to realize that it doesn't work.

DAL/ASA,CMR
AA/Eagle
USAirways/ALG,PDT,PSA
United/ACA,AirWisc.
... have all come to this realization over time.

I suspect the NWA/Pinnacle,Mesaba group is next.... we shall see.

 

[AviatorTx]

It should be noted that those CAL Reps that said this are SCABs. They are the CA and FO Reps of IAH LEC171, both of whom were hired during 1983 and vigorously oposed the merger with ALPA. The Reps from Guam joined them in their feud.

Wow... This guy knows what happened...

Exactly, the SCABS threw us out of the MEC. Fu*k the SCABS!

Many of us warned you when you joined ALPA that this was a mistake. You didn't listen and it seems you still refuse to accept the reality that the mainline interests are opposed to the regional interests.

I agree, but disagree. ALPA is the best show in town, even for a regional. Better than Teamsters, IMHO. Now, I agree that they need to do a better job representing the small jet carriers. I do not believe a poorly funded (it would be) "regional airline union" could take on ALPA and win.

I believe the best way to win this fight is from inside ALPA. At the current rate, there just may be more small jet pilots in ALPA than big jet pilots if the majors keep shrinking. We could take over by sheer numbers.

How do we now get the RJDC to start courting our new MEC??? I actually think it might be time.

Piss on the SCABS!!!!

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

Capt. Caucasian,
Many of us warned you when you joined ALPA that this was a mistake. You didn't listen and it seems you still refuse to accept the reality that the mainline interests are opposed to the regional interests. ALPA national will back the interests of the mainline pilots even if it comes at the expense of the regional pilots. I would encourage the XJT pilots to not look back and to move forward as a SEPARATE pilot group. Do not support the mainline pilots attempt to limit your careers. You have now joined a large group of regional pilots that attempted over the years to work with the mainline pilots only to realize that it doesn't work.

DAL/ASA,CMR
AA/Eagle
USAirways/ALG,PDT,PSA
United/ACA,AirWisc.
... have all come to this realization over time.

I suspect the NWA/Pinnacle,Mesaba group is next.... we shall see.

I completely disagree with your assertions. The reasons why would require me to write a Surplus1esque response . Being a very close part for two and a half years of what transpired I feel I can back up my stance. However, I really would like to discuss with you what and why this has happened. Besides, I hear you are an ASA pilot and I am from ATL. I am sure we have quite a few common friends. Drop me a line.

Frats,
[email protected]

PS: I do not blame one bit ALPA National.

PPS: Our SCABs have finally healed.

 

[FSB99]

so.. can i stop being nice to the scabs when i see them on the bus, jumpseat, terminal, etc?


please?

 

[FSB99]

"scab free mec"


love it!

 

[AviatorTx]

so.. can i stop being nice to the scabs when i see them on the bus, jumpseat, terminal, etc? please?

PLEASE!!!!

I found the SCABLIST online:

Every pilot should have one!!!

http://www.fracpilot.com/Scabs%20by%20Name%20May04.PDF

 

[InclusiveScope]

be) "regional airline union" could take on ALPA and win.

How do we now get the RJDC to start courting our new MEC??? I actually think it might be time.

Piss on the SCABS!!!!

Anyone interested can email RJDC at:
[email protected]
You can also sign up for RJDC updates at:
http://rjdefense.com/phpemail/

 

[CRJDog]

Capt. Caucasian,
Many of us warned you when you joined ALPA that this was a mistake. You didn't listen and it seems you still refuse to accept the reality that the mainline interests are opposed to the regional interests. ALPA national will back the interests of the mainline pilots even if it comes at the expense of the regional pilots. I would encourage the XJT pilots to not look back and to move forward as a SEPARATE pilot group. Do not support the mainline pilots attempt to limit your careers. You have now joined a large group of regional pilots that attempted over the years to work with the mainline pilots only to realize that it doesn't work.

DAL/ASA,CMR
AA/Eagle
USAirways/ALG,PDT,PSA
United/ACA,AirWisc.
... have all come to this realization over time.

I suspect the NWA/Pinnacle,Mesaba group is next.... we shall see.

Well said!

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

Well said!

Oh my lord! I just sent an email to Inculsive explaining my/our position on that. It was so long my wife had to drag me off of the computer so I could take her out drinking last night. I didn't know my fingers could type that long with out falling off.

Anywho, I still don't think the RJDC applies at all to us. CAL pilots have got their collective heads up their collective a s s e s so far that I think they will start paying management to fly, because they saved the company before. Right? (note extreme sarcasm)

Frats,

 

[AviatorTx]

Anywho, I still don't think the RJDC applies at all to us. CAL pilots have got their collective heads up their collective a s s e s so far that I think they will start paying management to fly, because they saved the company before. Right? (note extreme sarcasm)Frats,

I hope you are right. We will see. If so, we have little to worry about. However, since the Chairman of the CAL Negotiating Committee hates Express as much as he does, I am keping a weary eye on things. I for one hope we will go the route of the RJDC if CAL's scope becomes that much of an issue.

P.S. Fu*k the SCABS!!!

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

I don't think TS can do much about Express right now. I don't think they are in much position to do anything. They already screwed up a contract extension that could have given them NWA rates two years ago. They really blew that one.

Also, they have been in negotiations for as long as we have with very little result. I don't think they have reached any thing close to being considered an A list item.

Frats,