Express Jet new-hires

[The_Russian]

Just a question.

With the upcoming loss of flying for Express Jet, why are people still going to work there? I am under the impression that they will furlough around September if they do not have any flying for those 69 aircraft. People I know that have been there for 1-2 years are looking at other options. So why would anyone be interested?

Also, some of the new Express Jet hires from GAA told me that they never even mentioned the loss of aircraft during the interview process or class date assignment. What gives?

 

[SuperKooter]

Just a question.

With the upcoming loss of flying for Express Jet, why are people still going to work there? I am under the impression that they will furlough around September if they do not have any flying for those 69 aircraft. People I know that have been there for 1-2 years are looking at other options. So why would anyone be interested?

Also, some of the new Express Jet hires from GAA told me that they never even mentioned the loss of aircraft during the interview process or class date assignment. What gives?

Maybe becuase they aren't losing them? Unlike when you lost 30k to go to GIA. Or when you lost any integrity or backbone you had left.

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[gkrangers]

Maybe becuase they aren't losing them? Unlike when you lost 30k to go to GIA. Or when you lost any integrity or backbone you had left.

yeah.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

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OK Gentlemen, go back to your corners, and come out swinging. :smash:

 

[The_Russian]

Maybe becuase they aren't losing them? Unlike when you lost 30k to go to GIA. Or when you lost any integrity or backbone you had left.

I have reported you to the moderators. This was not up for discussion in this thread and is inappropriate. You have no right to judge my character. You have no details of my career to present lawfully on this thread.

 

[rk772]

What is the hiring forcast for the next couple of years.

 

[The_Russian]

I was told hiring will continue up until Dec 31 2006. After that the fleet will be fully complimented with crews.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

I think the XJT new hires may very well have a lot to look forward to. Anything can happen, but I think the company is in a good position to diversify and pursue many options that could lead to future growth outside of the CPA with Continental. I'm not trying to sound overly optomistic, but I wouldn't rule XJT out over the loss of flying within the Continental CPA.

 

[The_Russian]

I understand that. However, a deal has not been signed and they are to lose the aircraft in September of this year. Correct? When the company takes the initial hit, won't they furlough? Maybe up to 700 pilots total over time correct?

 

[SkyBoy1981]

I understand that. However, a deal has not been signed and they are to lose the aircraft in September of this year. Correct? When the company takes the initial hit, won't they furlough? Maybe up to 700 pilots total over time correct?

They have already announced that they will keep the aircraft. They have yet to announce what will be done with them, as such plans are still in the developmental stages.

 

[saviboy]

Just a question.

With the upcoming loss of flying for Express Jet, why are people still going to work there? I am under the impression that they will furlough around September if they do not have any flying for those 69 aircraft. People I know that have been there for 1-2 years are looking at other options. So why would anyone be interested?

Also, some of the new Express Jet hires from GAA told me that they never even mentioned the loss of aircraft during the interview process or class date assignment. What gives?

between:
1)getting hired, getting 121 emb 145 training , getting furloughed in 6 months
2) or flight instruction, I think I would go to expressjet.

 

[cwebster2]

I understand that. However, a deal has not been signed and they are to lose the aircraft in September of this year. Correct? When the company takes the initial hit, won't they furlough? Maybe up to 700 pilots total over time correct?

We've already announced we are keeping the airplanes. September was just our deadline to tell CAL what we were doing. The first airplane leaves the CPA in december, and then XJT is free to use them for whatever (aside from originating/terminating flights at IAH/CLE/EWR im told). What we do with the 69 airplanes probably wont be announced publically until later this year, though the rumor mill is working hard on that.

 

[ERfly]

I understand that. However, a deal has not been signed and they are to lose the aircraft in September of this year. Correct? When the company takes the initial hit, won't they furlough? Maybe up to 700 pilots total over time correct?

The reduction will start on December 28, 2006. However, each of those 69 aircraft will be doing something else for ExpressJet. We did not lose the airplanes. We assume the leases and will find work for them. Quit stirring up sh!t that you know nothing about.

As for the furloughs, we staff for block hours, not airframes. The block hours keep coming. We'll just change the staffing to use 205 airplanes instead of 274.

 

[Truckdriver]

I was told hiring will continue up until Dec 31 2006. After that the fleet will be fully complimented with crews.

OK Russian, I'm not attacking your character and I don't know enough about your career to present lawfully on this thread (tool), but are you stupid? In your first post you say you "were told" they would furlough in Sep. In the above post you say you "were told" they would continue to hire until Dec. So most people could figure out that they are not going to furlough in Sep if they are hiring until Dec.

On another note, XJT is not losing any aircraft. CAL is losing them to XJT because we are taking them to do other stuff with them. The whole 69 aircraft deal will not cause any furloughs at XJT. If anything, we will need to hire more pilots because of the captains that are leaving. Upgrades are now at 2 years and will probably continue at that pace for some time. The 100 options we have at Embraer for additional XRJ aircraft may be exercised according to the VP of flight ops. The only thing that is going to hurt XJT in the next couple of years will be a CAL merger with anyone. When some of the legacy carriers merge, which is highly probable, you will see the merged carrier dump a good portion of it's 50-seat feed. XJT will be a big loser in a CAL merger with anyone. That is the only risk I see at XJT, the 69 aircraft deal is a good thing as XJT will get away from only having one customer that can control their destiny.

 

[The_Russian]

The reduction will start on December 28, 2006. However, each of those 69 aircraft will be doing something else for ExpressJet. We did not lose the airplanes. We assume the leases and will find work for them. Quit stirring up sh!t that you know nothing about.

As for the furloughs, we staff for block hours, not airframes. The block hours keep coming. We'll just change the staffing to use 205 airplanes instead of 274.

Excuse me. I am not stirring anything of the sort. I am simply asking a question. And please, don't say I know nothing about Express Jet. It is pretty obvious what will hapen. They will furlough pilots. I was just asking why someone would still take a new hire slot and be on the bottom of the list just to get furloughed.

 

[The_Russian]

OK Russian, I'm not attacking your character and I don't know enough about your career to present lawfully on this thread (tool), but are you stupid? In your first post you say you "were told" they would furlough in Sep. In the above post you say you "were told" they would continue to hire until Dec. So most people could figure out that they are not going to furlough in Sep if they are hiring until Dec.

No, I said I was under the impression. Not that I was TOLD they would furlough. Plans to hire and what will really happen with the company are two different things. Dont call me a tool. Have some respect please. I have no idea how this turned into a boxing match. I just asked a simple question.

 

[Truckdriver]

And please, don't say I know nothing about Express Jet.

You don't know anything about Express Jet.

 

[Truckdriver]

No, I said I was under the impression. Not that I was TOLD they would furlough. Plans to hire and what will really happen with the company are two different things. Dont call me a tool. Have some respect please. I have no idea how this turned into a boxing match. I just asked a simple question.

1) You need to get your impressions from another source then.

2)I'm sorry I called you a tool and I won't do it again, but you are asking to be called a tool when you tell someone you told on them and throw out legal stuff on this board.

3) I'm not sure how it turned into a boxing match either.

4) XJT will not furlough due to this 69 aircraft deal. If I were a betting man, I would bet my paycheck on it.

 

[ERfly]

They will furlough pilots.

Source? I'd like to know. Because you have some information that the pilots at XJT don't have.

No, I said I was under the impression. Not that I was TOLD they would furlough.

Now, wait a minute. In the post to me, you're certain we will furlough. In your post to Truckdriver, you said you were under the impression. Now which is it? You contradict yourself every step of the way. You're just a troll trying to stir stuff up. Just go away.

 

[The_Russian]

1) You need to get your impressions from another source then.

2)I'm sorry I called you a tool and I won't do it again, but you are asking to be called a tool when you tell someone you told on them and throw out legal stuff on this board.

3) I'm not sure how it turned into a boxing match either.

4) XJT will not furlough due to this 69 aircraft deal. If I were a betting man, I would bet my paycheck on it. Today

1. The source is three Express Jet employees.

2. I do not deserve the libel. Nor does anyone else.

3.

4. I hope not. But if the aircraft aren't flying why wouldn't they?

Source? I'd like to know. Because you have some information that the pilots at XJT don't have.

Express jet pilots. One in the training department.

Now, wait a minute. In the post to me, you're certain we will furlough. In your post to Truckdriver, you said you were under the impression. Now which is it? You contradict yourself every step of the way. You're just a troll trying to stir stuff up. Just go away.

Please, read my posts. Don't read and then interperet. I am speaking the same language as you are. The meaning of my words has not changed. I have re-read my original post numerous times and it clearly says "impression". An impression would derive from common sense. It is common sense that they will furlough with the loss of flying. This is my impression of the situation. I hope that is clearer.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

You don't know anything about ExpressJet.

:beer: Nuff said!

 

[The_Russian]

Thats why I was asking a question. The truth is that none of you seem to know anything either. I would derive this from the fact that you cannot answer my question.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Thats why I was asking a question. The truth is that none of you seem to know anything either. I would derive this from the fact that you cannot answer my question.

All that any of us know is that we are keeping the airplanes. I find it highly unlikely that our management would elect to keep 69 airframes unless they have several strong possibilities for utilizing them. Whoever you are getting your information from, training department or line pilot, doesn't know anything more than the rest of us. We will find out more information in a few months when those who are making decisions feel that it is okay to disclose it.

 

[The_Russian]

All that any of us know is that we are keeping the airplanes. I find it highly unlikely that our management would elect to keep 69 airframes unless they have several strong possibilities for utilizing them. Whoever you are getting your information from, training department or line pilot, doesn't know anything more than the rest of us.

Right! No one knows anything. I can agree with that. But, if there WAS a chance of furlough with the near future, why would someone sign up to work? If I knew there was even a chance of getting furloughed froma company, I would not go to work for them. I also understand that completing training and getting online for a few months before furlough could help your logbook.

 

[CFI2766]

Just a question.

With the upcoming loss of flying for Express Jet, why are people still going to work there? I am under the impression that they will furlough around September if they do not have any flying for those 69 aircraft. People I know that have been there for 1-2 years are looking at other options. So why would anyone be interested?

Also, some of the new Express Jet hires from GAA told me that they never even mentioned the loss of aircraft during the interview process or class date assignment. What gives?

I am a CFI that flies near 100 hrs/month, 30-31 days/month, in hot tiny airplanes. I would 100% absolutely love to work for ExpressJet, even if it means furlough in a few months.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Right! No one knows anything. I can agree with that. But, if there WAS a chance of furlough with the near future, why would someone sign up to work? If I knew there was even a chance of getting furloughed froma company, I would not go to work for them. I also understand that completing training and getting online for a few months before furlough could help your logbook.

Oh, there is always a chance of getting furloughed...I don't care where you go. Its a gamble, just like anything else. Either the new XJT hires will become a part of a new beginning for the company and advance quickly, or it will be a short venture for them prior to being put back on the street. Some are willing to take the risk, others are not. I wouldn't consider XJT to be any more of a risk than most other regional airlines when it comes to job security.

 

[The_Russian]

I am a CFI that flies near 100 hrs/month, 30-31 days/month, in hot tiny airplanes. I would 100% absolutely love to work for ExpressJet, even if it means furlough in a few months.

Yeah I know where you are coming from. I did three summers in those little buggers. Not that the 1900 isn't a bugger! But, you have the choice of going to other regionals that have a better current outlook. One that you can build seniority at and not even risk being furloughed on the current market. Wouldn't it make more sense stray away to another employer as a new hire?

 

[The_Russian]

Oh, there is always a chance of getting furloughed...I don't care where you go. Its a gamble, just like anything else. Either the new XJT hires will become a part of a new beginning for the company and advance quickly, or it will be a short venture for them prior to being put back on the street. Some are willing to take the risk, others are not. I wouldn't consider XJT to be any more of a risk than most other regional airlines when it comes to job security.

Well said. I agee you can't forsee anything in the regional market.

 

[Sig]

I have reported you to the moderators. You have no details of my career to present lawfully on this thread.

ROFLMAO. Motion for emergency green card revocation, tabled by Sig. Seconds?

Present lawfully? Oh, man... who whizzed in your borscht?

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*** Chill, Russian. This is a board of anonymous opinion- lawfully?!? Robert's Rules of Order are just as silly.

 

[wahoo250]

if you want my opinion both CO and express knew where these planes were going all along. it was a neat way to free up CO of 69 regional jets it did not need and will be replaced by 737 flying. no cost to either company. Throw a third party company into the mix with a clause that thier flying will be based upon airframes (which already is known that there will be none) coming from Expressjet. A win, win, situation and a big middle finger to the third party. just my thought. and I like it.