Express Jet Hiring Update...

[JvW]

As so many of you out there, my file has been sent forward to XJET late last month but have not received a phone call yet. I tried to read through the threats which have been posted here, but many posts take a path away from the actual subject of discussion, very frustrating indeed. I am not impatient nor in a hurry, but was wondering what the current situation with the hiring process at XJET was?

Thanks,

JvW

 

[Truckdriver]

Two newhires were thrown into the last furlough recall class that started on Monday the 16th. It sounds like we are going to be running two classes per month until the end of the year and possibly beyond that. As far as class size goes, I think they need at least 16 to make it worthwhile. Could be 16 per class or more I'm not sure. I heard two classes of 20 per month but not from an official source so I'm not sure.

The quickest way to an interview is to follow the system they have set up. Online App, Phone Interview, 1st Interview, then the 2nd Interview. Having someone on the inside will help you in the 2nd interview if you get there. A third party firm does the online app screening, HR does the phone interview stuff, a panel of flight ops people do the 1st interview, and then management personell do the 2nd intervew. References and people you know come into play on the 2nd interview only. As far as the reasoning behind the madness of who gets called for interviews, you'll figure out how to do cold fusion before you figure out how XJT decides who to call. Good luck and get the apps out to everyone!

 

[phishhman]

I rode on the bus back to my crashpad the other day with a fellow xjt pilot. His friend is a captain on the hiring board. (I know it seems convoluted). Anyway, he was told that they want 90 in training in March and 120 in training for April. Then 48 per month after that. Take it for what it is worth. That is what I h eard.

 

[Skyward]

65 newhires in march, 65-80 per month after that.

 

[d.fitz]

Lets hope we all get called March 1st!

 

[bandit110]

"I tried to read through the threats which have been posted"

Lots of threats from them lately????

 

[Future SNA]

Actually...

There are 9 new hires in the February 16th class, 4 recalls, 3 new hire dispatchers. They ARE lowering the minimums required for the next round, that's all I know. During your interview, they'll say training is approximately 39 days, VERY few breaks, actually comes out to be 70 days, weekends off, several 3 day weekends, and no waiting around for IOE, I think the longest wait is scheduled right now for like 5 days max..........oh did I mention we have an entire schedule!! Big upgrade from a few years ago. Majority of new hires will get EWR, BUTTTTTT, by the time the next bid comes out, there will hopefully be some more newhires, possibly even 2 classes worth. In any luck, you'll all have seniority numbers by then, and then YOULL get EWR, and I can get IAH, in theory at least. I think the most difficult thing you have to look forward to...........is staying awake during indoc.

 

[JvW]

Thanks for the update, this is the kind of information I was looking for. According to these numbers, patience will pay off soon it sounds.

Danke,

JvW

 

[d.fitz]

No kiddin! I think there are alot of us waiting.... Thanks for posting that info! It sure helps us to keep the faith!

 

[FSB99]

Re: Re: Express Jet Hiring Update...

"I tried to read through the threats which have been posted"

Lots of threats from them lately????

glad i'm not the only one that noticed this! i resisted the temptation, though, since the original poster specified he wanted to keep thread drift from happening.. oh well!

 

[Future SNA]

Well, since that went so well

I guess I can rant about other stuff I know. Essentially, everyone's planning on going home this first weekend, we don't learn a TON of stuff that basically, we all didn't all ready know this week, or, thus far. If you don't understand duty time, alternates, and all the stuff typically found in a Operations Manual, I guess it could be fairly rough, but I've found it to be not bad, as I'd guess everyone else has also. You'll get the "man we're glad to see new hires" spiel from almost everyone in the company numerous times, and in between those, literally, you'll slowly work through the ops stuff. 2 round trip passes per/month for the first 90 days for people in your JA(jumpseat agreement list), being you, your parents, kids, wife, and if no wife, your "companion" being your boyfriend/girlfriend. Of course you can jumpseat for free anywhere, and don't necessarily have to be IN the cockpit to jumpseat, so that's nice, and this is once your on the line. Yes they take care of your TO/From training on the weekends, just you lose your hotel room. One time payment of ~$1482 for training, ie food, plus hotel is paid for. You won't spend that much for food/day, trust me. Uniform guy will "attempt" to sell you TONS OF SHIZIT, we didn't know any better, we all bought it. There are NO MINIMUMS on stuff you have to own, get it where it's cheap, except for the pants, get from him. Uniforms are payroll deducted, minimum $10 per check, $20 per month, NO INTEREST, so essentially, I plan on being on payroll deduct for the rest of my life. Emergency memory items are a joke, probably 10 emergencies with memory items, approximately 3-6 memory items per emergency, and if you can remember "press and hold", your half way there. Limitations, a "little" different story, about 70 different, fuel, battery, operational, flap, gear, vspeed, etc limitations. A total of around 100 memory items to know cold, flash cards are great, I learned them all in one night, no problem. Training department is TOTALLY REVAMPED from pre 9/11 standards, none of this weeding out, drop-kick bs I hear some airlines are doing. Knowing what I know now, I can honestly say I have ABSOLUTELY no idea why anyone would go anywhere else, if offered a job here. All through this first week, people have been called by chq, mesa, skywest, tsa, for interviews, job offers, etc, and we all agree, we got the sweeter end of the deal. Hiring is supposedly ramping up pretty quickly, I've met LOTS of interviewees in the mornings on the rides over from the hotel, and have done everything to calm their nerves, make them understand what they're getting into. If you fly down the night before for a morning interview, all new hires stay in the Holiday Inn airport, come up, say hi, I'll answer any/all questions as best I can, since everyone has done the same for me. I'm assuming all my class would, everyone's equally as nice. Lowest time in our class is like 1500, highest is probably 2900, Multi ranges from 250 for recalls(most haven't flown a ton) to roughly 900-1000. Average multi is 500-700, I'd say 2000 is the total time average, most have less, causing the high timers to average down. All I have time for.

 

[d.fitz]

Good stuff SNA, I owe you at least a 6 pack! Of good beer even!

: )

 

[wannab0133]

good stuff futture sna

future sna,

thanks for the info. i just was offered a march 8th class date at xjt. it sounds very appealing, but i was wondering what the talk is on the street about our length of time on reserve out of iah? i know most newhires will be in ewr until some trickle in behind us. I cannot get anyone at xjt to say that reserve will be less than 1.5 years. the guys i interviewed with threw out 3 years! and the guys i know there are spouting 1.5 years. how can this be with the amount of hiring theyre doing? and theyre losing the cal guys and growing iah so much, it sounds crazy that were talking long reserve times.

also, from what i gathered, it seems there will be 30 in a class and 3 classes this month starting with march 8th, and then 4 in april. so if my math is correct thats 210 by the end of april, then theyll slow down a bit.

 

[JvW]

Good Stuff

Thanks for the great info SNA,
this is the kind of stuff I was looking for. I hope everything goes well in training and we will see you soon in one of the crashpads around EWR. The first sixpack of Milwaukee's Best is on me.

JvW

 

[Future SNA]

More like...

15-20 I'd say in a class, but that's just what I'd think based off of the room in the class rooms we've been using. I hear that the crew scheduling fella can tell us our approximate reserve time for each domicile if we go and talk with him, but haven't gone yet. He did come to our class and talk with us, and he said reserve would be, in his words, surely no longer than 3-6 months, if that.. Really, for me at least, domicile only matters for when I decide to move, and I'd never live on the east coast. Since I'll be commuting, I really could care less where I go, a crash pad is a crash pad, as long as I can get back to IAH when I decide to leave my current apartment and move. Yes IAH is growing, should be easy to get back here, so they tell us. You've got the class date, now wait to start. I guarantee this is the best deal, since cumulatively, someone in our class has interviewed with pretty much every regional, and I've heard all the good and bad. Even the C.P. said he's giving the new contract 6 months before it's finished, of course it's all speculation, but should be pretty exciting when it's finished!! Can anyone say backpay, instantaneous raises, oooooo the possibilities!

 

[Who Dey]

Just don't drink the company kool-aid!!!!

 

[d.fitz]

One post, registered today, and a post like that.

I am guessing you are a repeat offender and have been kicked off before. Maybe earlier this week perhaps...

 

[Who Dey]

No I have never been kicked off. You just have to remember source that you here things. Chief Pilots are management and offer you the company Kool-aid. Go talk to the line pilots that deal with the $hiit every day or better yet the union. It is a good place to work but I don't drink the kool-aid. Contract at Mesaba took 3 years and we are only at a year and a half past the amendable date. To me this stuff is just starting.

 

[FSB99]

you bring up a good point... to those who are in class currently, has the union sent their 'welcome committee' to your class yet? haven't heard anything in the blast mails, but i assume that the membership committee has had volunteers out to the classes. maybe not necessarily the requal (recalled furloughs) but definitely they should visit the new hire classes.

 

[Future SNA]

....

I heard today that they actually are having ~40-50/class, man, that makes for a big class. Heard March 8th is full, now filling up March 15th. Yes, the mob made it by or classroom, nothing really to say though. Of course I don't find it in the least bit weird, since THE ENTIRE COMPANY has stopped by our room at least once, so for ALPA to stop by, I'm just assuming it just one of those things. And as for the C.P., I think he's about as straight a shooter as they come, if you've ever really sat and talked to him, I'm sure you'd realize what the last 150 pilots we've talked to have all said, that he's a great guy, no bs.