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B19 Flyer said:
Give one specific example of ANY employee that was fired because they gave their honest opinion. Once again Noodles, just part of the rumor mill with no facts behind it. All opinions are valued, but don't expect rumor mill to produce or mirror reality.

Jeez, would you like a list? The only reason I'm not posting a list is because I wouldnt put a list of names out there in public on the internet. But I will talk to some of the people who got the shaft over bull********************, and if they don't mind, I'll post it to prove that YOU"RE full of sh it.
 
Where did most of the program managers/check pilots come from at Avantair? I've heard a lot of Flt Opts folks went to avantair, which could be good, could be bad.
 
angryoneincher said:
Jeez, would you like a list? The only reason I'm not posting a list is because I wouldnt put a list of names out there in public on the internet. But I will talk to some of the people who got the shaft over bull********************, and if they don't mind, I'll post it to prove that YOU"RE full of sh it.

How many of these names are NOT tied to the former paranoid DO, JM? My guess is that they were either fired directly by JM or that rumors were started by him that caused their departure. The company has always been first class, but like any growing organization, some folks didn't fit. All I've heard is that nothing but good has happened with the new DO and employees are very happy. Still no specifics from anybody, only rumor and innuendo.
 
B19 Flyer said:
How many of these names are NOT tied to the former paranoid DO, JM? My guess is that they were either fired directly by JM or that rumors were started by him that caused their departure. The company has always been first class, but like any growing organization, some folks didn't fit. All I've heard is that nothing but good has happened with the new DO and employees are very happy. Still no specifics from anybody, only rumor and innuendo.

Tied to the former D.O.? Don't forget- he left, he wasn't fired. And he left because he found out there were things going on behind his back that he didnt want his name tied to- unethical, illegal things. Whether or not anyone agrees with how he ran his department, it doesnt change the fact that he didn't want to be lumped in with the rest of the sleazeballs in upper management. Now all of a sudden he was paranoid and behind the bogus firings and all that crap??? God, you are getting desperate. And the way this company is run has nothing to do with people not fitting. It has to do with greedy management that can't stand anyone else having an opinion that messes with their broader plan, and that plan is to line their pockets as heavily as possible with no regard for anyone else, and then most likely selling out to the highest bidder .
 
angryoneincher said:
Tied to the former D.O.? Don't forget- he left, he wasn't fired. And he left because he found out there were things going on behind his back that he didnt want his name tied to- unethical, illegal things. Whether or not anyone agrees with how he ran his department, it doesnt change the fact that he didn't want to be lumped in with the rest of the sleazeballs in upper management. Now all of a sudden he was paranoid and behind the bogus firings and all that crap??? God, you are getting desperate. And the way this company is run has nothing to do with people not fitting. It has to do with greedy management that can't stand anyone else having an opinion that messes with their broader plan, and that plan is to line their pockets as heavily as possible with no regard for anyone else, and then most likely selling out to the highest bidder .

Didn't answer the question...

How many of these names are NOT tied to the former paranoid DO, JM?
 
B19 Flyer said:
Didn't answer the question...

How many of these names are NOT tied to the former paranoid DO, JM?

Doesnt matter, because he didn't fire anybody without the word from you know who, and you know darn well who I'm talking about- think " CEO that no one respects." Besides, if it was a paranoid D.O. firing people wrongfully, why didn't the company make things right after they figured out what was going on??? Your attempts to spin this are pathetic.
 
ok i couldn't help it I met a crew yesterday at teterboro and asked them several questions about their overall happiness level at avantair. The pilot i spoke to has been there for two years and said maintanance does a great job. he said he would never leave the company that he was treated extremelly well and that the leadership at the top was very good. i asked him about flightinfo and he laughed and said that it is the same two or three people who either dont work at the company anymore or are just miserable individuals. Most of us in the industry end of socializing on the road. Like the pilots at shares the avantair pilots are very happy from what i see and hear. Noodles, Angryoneincher and their flightinfo created surnames (mr pebbles etc)should just move on if they in fact still work at Avantair. According to this pilot he stated Noodles was fired months ago for his bad behavior and still hasnt gotten over it. He said this individual has tried everything to get even with the company. His and angrys posts support that. Look if anyone is considering working at any company talk to the pilots who work there.
 
citationsarejun said:
ok i couldn't help it I met a crew yesterday at teterboro and asked them several questions about their overall happiness level at avantair. The pilot i spoke to has been there for two years and said maintanance does a great job. he said he would never leave the company that he was treated extremelly well and that the leadership at the top was very good. i asked him about flightinfo and he laughed and said that it is the same two or three people who either dont work at the company anymore or are just miserable individuals. Most of us in the industry end of socializing on the road. Like the pilots at shares the avantair pilots are very happy from what i see and hear. Noodles, Angryoneincher and their flightinfo created surnames (mr pebbles etc)should just move on if they in fact still work at Avantair. According to this pilot he stated Noodles was fired months ago for his bad behavior and still hasnt gotten over it. He said this individual has tried everything to get even with the company. His and angrys posts support that. Look if anyone is considering working at any company talk to the pilots who work there.

If you're suggesting that Noodles and Angryoneincher are the same person as me, that's ridiculous to the point of being funny. I don't know if Noodles and AOI are the same, but I'm a whole separate entity. :) I dont care about any of this anyway, the only interest I have in this is what I mentioned in an earlier post and that was that I have a few friends that got F'ed over and some of the things I've heard on the street would make any intelligent person realize that this company puts on a false front.

As far as you're concerned, Citationsarejun, the fact that you claim to work for shares and take time to defend Avantair, when you do not seem to even know anyone well within the company, makes it seem that you're guilty of what you are accusing others of- misrepresenting yourself.
 
Right on Mr Pebbles, you are right about Citationsarejun, he's a poser.

Looking at his posts, he appears to be either Avair managment, a managment wannabe, or the elusive CEO you know who.

BTW, he's also not very perceptive in his summations of our fellow posters here.

Cheers:beer:
 

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