ExAvantair People

[Frap]

Hey Tater,

Re: Your (not you're) last post:

5 lines of rant.
ONE period.

I'm hardly a grammar whiz, but my eyes actually hurt right now.

And you can save your (not you're) "If you don't like the way I write, then (not than) don't read it." comeback. Way ahead of ya, man. It's my fault for trying to read this entire thread in the first place.

Good luck with your "cause."

 

[angryoneincher]

think about it

I don't know who started this post, or what his cause is, but this much is true: The list of good, hardworking people who are no longer with this company because of backstabbing, knowing too much information, personal vendettas, and speaking out for what is fair and right, etc., is long. Maybe this stuff does happen elsewhere as someone else noted, but that doesnt make it right. And to those people who are moving up the chain of command rather quickly who think " Oh, they would never do that to me," to those people I say beware. Any employee here is a scapegoat waiting for their time. Smart people here work the line and keep their head below the radar.

 

[brewerdog]

thanks for the fun

seems like there will always be vocal pissed off pilots and quiet content ones

Avantair is growing and going to get some hits from bozos no matter what

half of the posts here are from the potato itself

 

[indefinitehold]

the only reason they are trying to keep pilots happy is to avoid a union getting involved.

Relax my fellow Avaitors, the cards will be mailed once again.

Can you, we, go the distance.

The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far as is needed?

 

[DA50pilot]

I know a few pilots who used to work there, and they quit because of some of the issues (not poor mx, or cutting corners, Just unkept promises) that this potato kid is talking about.

I do however see a lot of there crews at PIE, and they all seem to be pretty happy now. As a previous poster said, as a new company grows, you are always going to have growing pains. During those growing pains, there will always be some a$$hole whining pilot (like potato), that doesn't get his/her way, and feels that they have to go out and publicly bash the company.

I know this is a public forum potato, but, one thing you must remember is that aviation is a very small community. Avantair, is a fairly small company, and I'm sure some of these guys/gals will be able to figure out who you are. As you try to bash Avantair and destroy them, in the long run, this may come back and bite you in the ass. Also; whats this WE sh!t, having to to get the word out to they FAA. If you have such a big problem with this company, then why dint YOU, go make a phone call instead of acting like an immature person on a friggen message board.

NO, I am not an Avantair pilot. I am just a pilot who sick of a$$holes like you giving us all a bad name.

Take care, have a good night.

 

[fastflyer15]

Part of life

Note the quiet board...

Is everybody happy???

 

[myrealnameis]

I can hardly wait for see that card in the mail again. The last one I recieved looked like some 5 year old made it on construction paper. It actually looked like it was cut out with plastic safety scissors. Perhaps there is a kindergarden connection............this may need futher investigation.

Relax my fellow Avaitors, the cards will be mailed once again.

Can you, we, go the distance.

The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far as is needed?

 

[B19 Flyer]

I don't know who started this post, or what his cause is, but this much is true: The list of good, hardworking people who are no longer with this company because of backstabbing, knowing too much information, personal vendettas, and speaking out for what is fair and right, etc., is long. Maybe this stuff does happen elsewhere as someone else noted, but that doesnt make it right. And to those people who are moving up the chain of command rather quickly who think " Oh, they would never do that to me," to those people I say beware. Any employee here is a scapegoat waiting for their time. Smart people here work the line and keep their head below the radar.

One would think that an unhappy work group would be all over this post in agreement. The silence is deafening! This clearly indicates to me that the change in DO has obviously had a calming effect on the company.

It also seems that the quote above comes from a disgruntled employee that spends far too much time being paranoid about micromanaging their surroundings and the people around them than doing what it takes to be part of the team and getting the job done.

 

[angryoneincher]

One would think that an unhappy work group would be all over this post in agreement. The silence is deafening! This clearly indicates to me that the change in DO has obviously had a calming effect on the company.

Maybe most people are happy, and that's fine. It doesnt make what's happened in the past up till not long ago not true. And leopards don't change their spots- they lay and wait. This company has screwed alot of people over- just because they havent in the last 3 weeks is no reason to stand on a chair and sing their praises. But maybe you're right- things are now hunky dory- unlikely though. Usually calm waters just precede the next storm.

It also seems that the quote above comes from a disgruntled employee that spends far too much time being paranoid about micromanaging their surroundings and the people around them than doing what it takes to be part of the team and getting the job done.

How does having an opinion automatically translate to micromanaging anything? Such a comment makes you look stupid when you dont know a thing about how I've formed my opinion. My opinion was and is being formed by knowing a lot about unscrupulous things I've seen happen and good people treated like crap by management that doesnt care about anyone but themselves. If they have fooled you into thinking they care about you, that makes you fairly pathetic. Wait until something goes down where you need backup- you'll find out quickly how things change. And I'm not disgruntled at all- I just call it the way I see it. If that is different from how you see it, so be it. YOU are not going to change my mind. I could maybe change yours with the information I have, but not the other way around.

 

[fastflyer15]

Most of us understand that any employer/employee situation lends itself only to what we can produce today. When we can not or will not (or slam the company continually) produce today the employer has no other option than to terminate the relationship. After all we are taking their money. Business, strickly business. Some employers are better than others in the "taking care of" business. The employer/ employee relationship is a business transaction. Maybe you did not protect yourself in the beginning as you should have. Don't let personal vendettas or feelings get in the way of your future business plans. Let there be no doubt...Business is business...Avantair will protect itself, it is their fudiciary duty, and you need to as well...
After all some of us really enjoy it here...

 

[Noodles]

I don't think the change in DO has had any impact yet. It's more of a wait and see kind of thing.

Also, people that work for Avantair have to be very careful giving an honest opinion. It'll get you fired.

 

[flyboy'sfriend]

Shhhh!

I agree with these guys, it's all slight of hand at AVair, I hear that the Mx is really atrocious!

 

[myrealnameis]

I agree with these guys, it's all slight of hand at AVair, I hear that the Mx is really atrocious!

WTF, who the hell are you to make that kind of remark against those hard working mechanics, its bad enough that they get treated like second class citizens, but to get bashed by some jacka*s like you is crossing the line. Sure the airplane is a maintenance whore, but what can you expect from an airplane that was designed to fly 10 hours a month. You cant blame the mechanics for that? I could make the statement that flyboys friend cant fly worth a sh*t, and that your a*s is planted in the right seat with no hope of upgrade in sight because of it. Would that be a fair rumor to spread? Or would that be atrocious?!

 

[myrealnameis]

I don't think the change in DO has had any impact yet. It's more of a wait and see kind of thing.

Also, people that work for Avantair have to be very careful giving an honest opinion. It'll get you fired.

Only if you personally attack the Big Mans wife on the internet.

 

[hangarrat]

I heard the grass is greener on the other side. I heard the sky is falling and I heard that i dont have to pay taxes because its unconstitutional.

i believe everything i hear