Evergreen has a TA

[pilotgolfer]

An MEC email went out last night that the negotiating commitee reached a Tentative Agreement with management. No details about the TA were included other than to say there would be roadshows in the following 2 months.

 

[propsarebest]

YAY!!!!

Finally. Congrats guys! Lets hope that it is worthwile...

 

[avpro91]

Don't hold your breath, you will not be impressed. In fact it's going to infuriate the ranks even more. A 100% NO vote is expected!

 

[ABUSED PILOT]

From what I hear it's the contract we have now for the next two years. That will make Del 82 and the waterpark and hotel should be done. And he won't need the airline any more.

 

[chickenpilot]

Del will need the airline for a long time to support Delbertland. I dont forsee long lines to get into the place and pay for it. His only customers will be checkairmen required to be at the annual meetings.

 

[ABUSED PILOT]

If their is one thing I know,Del needs no one. and has all the money he needs.

 

[pilotgolfer]

Unrelated to the TA...but phone calls are going out tonight to try to put together a May 3rd new hire class. But they are also asking if the guys would be willing to sign a 24 month training contract. There were a few pilots rumored to be going to Atlas so maybe they are trying to stop the bleeding.

 

[propsarebest]

I'd imagine that a few of the LCF guys are going to Atlas.

 

[Nevergreen]

If anybody is thinking of coming to Evergreen now....DON'T DO IT.

This TA is going to be voted down. It is a piece of F$^%ing Garbage.

And when it happens Del will furlough you. Hell, Del is going to furlough you anyway. Del loves to furlough. Furloughing is Del's 2nd favorite activity.

 

[Zoneload]

What's the first?

 

[Nevergreen]

screwing over employees

 

[B747FR8DAWG]

I'd imagine that a few of the LCF guys are going to Atlas.

Class starts on monday, I hear some LCF guys are in it.

 

[Nevergreen]

Probably why the rumor is a May 3 class at Evergreen with a 2 year contract.

Tell everyone you know to stay as far away from this place as possible. It is going down hill fast, and will implode just as soon as this TA gets voted down.

The TA is not going to even be close. The majority of us would rather see this place liquidate and the flying jobs go elsewhere than let Del screw us anymore.

A few old timers and a handful of wimps will vote for the TA, the rest of us are sick of the lies and bull********************.

 

[GG747]

Most of the LCF crews have not received a Call from Atlas. Seems a couple have but most are from the classic fleet.

 

[Master Shake]

Well this is funny. I left EIA in 2003 to transition to being a pilot. After 4 years of working there and seeing the "Del cycle" with pilots and other personnel, , I vowed never to go back; especially as a pilot. Nice to see things still seem to be status quo. If you have any dignity as a human being, you will never work for this craphole. The only ray of sunshine for this otherwise mortuary of an airline is for Del to die. At least that would allow for some fresh air.

 

[Nevergreen]

So have any EZ guys come out of the closet yet and announced publicly they are in the next Atlas class? And if so, who?

 

[Classicdriver]

What's the latest on the T/A? Any chance of it passing? Maybe Del will throw you some crumbs if it looks destined to fail.

The first -400 is due anytime, any updates?

 

[Nevergreen]

Del will never throw us any crumbs. He is a despicable POS. He takes out all the profits, takes all the equity out of the airline AND THEN he cries poor.

ALPA is no better. They took dues from us for 2.5 years and do absolutely nothing to help us. They fell for his line of B.S. . They actually sent us an email confirming the airline has been profitable for the last few years, but also claim that we should give him this status quo financing to help him get new financing. .

What a pile of crap. Del gets to continue screwing the crewmembers with the lowest wages in the industry and ALPA keeps collecting the dues for the next few years and providing no service to us. Well, except a magazine that isn't even as useful as toilet paper.So for the next 2-5 years he will get to continue feeding at the trough and ALPA gets to collect dues and the only losers in this situation are us, the crewmembers.

And the BofA 400F is still not on the property yet. More management lies.

 

[propsarebest]

The "BofA" 400f is leaving SIN on Thursday...

 

[Zoneload]

I see it is heading out of SIN..

 

[Zoneload]

And N481EV is on the water park..

http://www.katu.com/news/92705654.html

 

[PA31Driver]

Any idea when EIA is going to start hiring again?

 

[pilotgolfer]

Any idea when EIA is going to start hiring again?

There is a class of 4 starting 5/10. I think there are about 6 guys left in the pool so I imagine they will have to do more interviews this month. There are perhaps a dozen people that have left for Atlas or will leave shortly.

 

[PA31Driver]

Thanks for the reply.

 

[propsarebest]

Looks like we will be hiring till the end of the year or so. Training can only do 4 people a month however...

 

[Nevergreen]

Props,

I humbly disagree.

This POS TA is going to go down. Del will go beserk. I expect serious recriminations to the flight crewmembers. I would not want to be a junior F.O. here this year. We will not see anymore 400's this year.

In fact, Del will not get his refinancing either. Del has run afoul of the loan covenants, and has proven to be a bad debt risk.

The only expansion at Evergreen will be in Del's pet projects.

It is unfortunate that Del is more interested in his crappy musuem and his waterpark than he is in running the airline.

 

[Classicdriver]

There is a class of 4 starting 5/10. I think there are about 6 guys left in the pool so I imagine they will have to do more interviews this month. There are perhaps a dozen people that have left for Atlas or will leave shortly.

I heard one of the 4 has decided to take an interview at Atlas instead of starting Monday.

 

[pilotgolfer]

Props,

I humbly disagree.

This POS TA is going to go down. Del will go beserk. I expect serious recriminations to the flight crewmembers. I would not want to be a junior F.O. here this year. We will not see anymore 400's this year.

In fact, Del will not get his refinancing either. Del has run afoul of the loan covenants, and has proven to be a bad debt risk.

The only expansion at Evergreen will be in Del's pet projects.

It is unfortunate that Del is more interested in his crappy musuem and his waterpark than he is in running the airline.

Nevergreen,

I don't know why the MEC is even bringing this TA out for a vote I'm a new guy here and won't have a vote, but that email sent out by the MEC announcing the TA made me mad. They seemed to have been doing all the companies propaganda for them. It seems like the MEC was easily outsmarted by better negotiators. If Del really needs these 400s, the Evergreen pilots will never have more leverage than they have now. You can't operate a single 400 freighter and have any efficiency. You need at least 3 of them to make it work.

The airline is financing all of Del's pet projects and I think everybody knows it. This TA had better be voted down by over 95% and then Del will have to blow the dust off his wallet and sweeten the deal.

Just my opinion...and I've been wrong before!

 

[Nevergreen]

I heard one of the 4 has decided to take an interview at Atlas instead of starting Monday.

That guy just made the best decision of his career!

Another person on this forumn confirmed for me that Del is making these guys sign 2 year contracts. No reputable airline does that. Just further proof how far and fast that Evergreen is sinking.

 

[ABUSED PILOT]

The new 400 is flying now. A truly great airplane. The LCF pilots are running like rats off a sinking ship, to Atlas. They are already short on 400 pilots thanks to our great leader. The 200 is on top the waterpark and the T/A should go down in flames. Just about normal for around here.