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It (N485EV)just left the states heading east and it has one more trip after this. Then it heads to MZJ for long term storage. Total hours 119570. I think it is time for a rest.. One of the GE planes is going in for a C-Check in Jan also. So if they put 470 down in Jan that will take 3 out of the fleet for Jan anyway.
 
I hear the most junior FO now was the most junior Captain before the furloughs started. Something lie 40% of the seniority list on the street.

Is the the end of EZ?
 
FMS-Speed said:
I hear the most junior FO now was the most junior Captain before the furloughs started. Something lie 40% of the seniority list on the street.

Is the the end of EZ?
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The most junior FO was/is still an FO. But we are close......Definetly in the next round of furloughs.

Could be out of business by March......
 
March of what year? Deep breath time everyone. Lots of furloughs. We have seen this before. I don't think we will be done by March. That is something that flight ops said in DEN. When it slows down like this Smith put people on the street. It happens all the time here. When I started here 22 years ago they had a big layoff and we were going under in months. Guess what we are still here. I hate it for all my friends on the street. Hang in guys it will get better.
 
Zoneload said:
March of what year? Deep breath time everyone. Lots of furloughs. We have seen this before. I don't think we will be done by March. That is something that flight ops said in DEN. When it slows down like this Smith put people on the street. It happens all the time here. When I started here 22 years ago they had a big layoff and we were going under in months. Guess what we are still here. I hate it for all my friends on the street. Hang in guys it will get better.
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I have had a couple of friends calling somewhat in a panic looking for info on jobs over an email they got from a Q&A with SH and him saying "doubtful right now about making the March Paychecks". I sincerely hope thats just a BS line, too many good people over there.
 
I also noticed the Saudia -400 bird isn't flying now, what's up with that?
 
Victor Meldrew said:
I have had a couple of friends calling somewhat in a panic looking for info on jobs over an email they got from a Q&A with SH and him saying "doubtful right now about making the March Paychecks". I sincerely hope thats just a BS line, too many good people over there.
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I got the E Mail of what SH said and he was all over the place. I know for a fact some of what he said was BS. Feb is looking a little better so I hope some of these guys won't be kicked to the curb. The bad thing is we are still going to be down 2 planes. I hope it gets better I have lots of friends in the middle of this mess.
 
how many contracts has dell screwed up over the airlines history? almost everyone including now EZ military allotment. I feel for the guys on furlough but this has been coming for 25 years now and dell isn't 60 anymore hes got to be pushing 80 and no heir apparent, you do the math. I did and bailed over a year ago.wish i could have stayed for the low pay but had to get out. I am not flaming baiting here just bringing up the facts
 
How did he screw up the military allotment? This SV thing is not his fault. I would hope that any airline flying ACMI would stick to there guns and get what pay they have coming to them. In the contract they are required to pay for our travel costs. They did not for the year. I know you are not trying to start trouble you did you time here. I am glad you found something better.
 
Saudia pays their bills. Something else must be behind the lack of payment and contract renewal.
 
FMS-Speed said:
Saudia pays their bills. Something else must be behind the lack of payment and contract renewal.
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Thats funny, I have only been to JED 6 or 7 times this year went to 4 different meetings about the lack of payment. I know of 1 other ACMI outfit in JED flying for SV now that have not been paid for the crew transport cost. I was also there in Feb when they did not pay the fueler in LOS so we had to sit and wait in RUH for Saudi to send the money. We have come to an agreement with them now the contract is sitting waiting for the DG of SVA to sign. It should be any day now from what we have heard.
 
FMS-Speed said:
Saudia pays their bills. Something else must be behind the lack of payment and contract renewal.
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Wasn't part of the deal that EZ would have 3 -400's flying the contract within 6 months and have only fielded 1 a/c. That's what I heard from EZ crews anyways.

Just seems to be a lot of "he said, she said" out there. Whatever it is still got fingers crossed for buddies there that somehow all pans out for the best.
 
Nope.. The original contract was only written for N491EV. I know what because I have a copy of the contract. The problem is a lot of the he said she said starts in the lobby of the 5 towns. Then it snow balls out of control.

This is a perfect story.. I was covering some Kalitta flights in DOV for a friend a few years ago. I am standing with the Kalitta crew talking and the crew says. I hear we are picking up all of Evergreens flying because we were in trouble with the military! I say well I don't think that is the case. He looks at me and I tell him we are doing 14 flights a week out of here for the rest of the month. He looks at me and says F*&&ing 5 towns.. I have been doing this for 23 years and the best stories still start in the 5 towns lobby.

The next best chance for us to add a plane to SV is July when 492 comes on line.

Back to the Giants game for me..
 
Heard a few were recalled at EZ......truth or rumor?
 
Zoneload said:
Yes they did call a few back. A little more flying in the works.
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how "few" did they call back?

anyone doing training in the -400? or all flying the classics?
 
pilotgolfer said:
Was that a 2 week furlough? Good going Del...that made a lot of sense.
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Had two good friends furloughed from there for 5 days once....got furloughed on their last day of new hire ground school. Glad to hear there are recalls!!
 
I think there are two in 400 training now. We picked up some extra flying so that is why they called some people back. Still going to be down 2 planes that are never coming back.
 
The 4 recalled pilots are going to the 200. The two in 400 training, 1 CA & 1 F/O, are also from the 200 but not on furlough.
 
I understand the company has a new president now... so what does this mean? any new rumors?
 
Yes we have a new president. He is from outside of Evergreen so we will have to see what happens. He has a plan to move things forward. Now lets see if he is allowed to make things happen.
 

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