ETPs

[Spooky 2]

In B-737NG, we define ETP using Lat/Long, and then put it in FIX page. This way, it shows along your route of flight merely as an advisory.

I believe the B737NG use a Smith FMS in lieu of a Honeywell product, so yes...maybe that system will allow a lat/long insertion directly on to the Fix page but the PIP or Pegasus on the 757/767 or 777 FMS will not allow this on the Fix page.

You would think that Honeywell would have a fairly standard product accross all lines but there is a world of difference in the various applications

 

[Spooky 2]

I tried to enter a discontinuity the way you described and I was unsucccesful. When I deleted the bogus waypoint it just closed the gap... no discontinuity. The White Honeywell FMS book was not usefull or instructive on how to create a discontinuity. I am at a loss. Its a Honeywell FMS SWv5.2 on a GIV.

Sorry I can't be of more help regarding this issue. Are you running a Lasertrac on your airplane and if so, can't you simply put it in the 3rd nav and not navigate to it, but watch it as it passes by? See my other post to the guy below and you'll see my comments about the Honeywell product line.

 

[AIRMOTIVE]

no problem. we do use a lasertrack for the wpt's and etp's for the crossings.

 

[SuperFLUF]

The way that we created a discontinuity in the 757/767 Honeywell/Pegasus FMS was to insert the point that you want to "float" after the last waypoint at the end of the route (usually the missed approach holding fix).
Then you line select the waypoint that is above where you want the discontinuity and then line select it back up to its same position and that creates the discontinuity below that fix.
Thus "floating" whatever is below the discontinuity.

 

[Spooky 2]

The way that we created a discontinuity in the 757/767 Honeywell/Pegasus FMS was to insert the point that you want to "float" after the last waypoint at the end of the route (usually the missed approach holding fix).
Then you line select the waypoint that is above where you want the discontinuity and then line select it back up to its same position and that creates the discontinuity below that fix.
Thus "floating" whatever is below the discontinuity.

I agree with your procedure but AIRMOTIVE's G1V avionics system archetecture does not allow for that methodology. Same mfg., but a whole lot different.

 

[SuperFLUF]

I agree with your procedure but AIRMOTIVE's G1V avionics system archetecture does not allow for that methodology. Same mfg., but a whole lot different.

I thought that might be the case. I'm not sure if it was even possible in the 75 before the Pegasus FMS mods. I never did try it in the Honeywell FMC that was in the ERJ.

 

[Spooky 2]

I thought that might be the case. I'm not sure if it was even possible in the 75 before the Pegasus FMS mods. I never did try it in the Honeywell FMC that was in the ERJ.

You could do that with all three FMC's, the Standard, the PIP and of course the Pegasus. There is an "enhanced fix page" , Page #4, available in the 777 that I believe will let you put a pure Lat/Long on it and that would be the best deal out there IMO.