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To: All Endeavor Employees
From :Ryan Gumm, President
Subject: Endeavor to Cease Operations
Date: July 27, 2015

All,
Today, I am writing to let you know that Delta has made the difficult decision to cease Endeavor's operations after September 29, 2015.
Delta recently announced its intent to reduce the overall number of 50-seat regional jets in its network from nearly 50 to 9 or fewer in light of the significant changes in the economic and competitive conditions in the airline industry. We believed this announcement would have a negative impact on Endeavor because we operate some of the oldest 50-seat aircraft in the Delta Connection fleet, which also have the highest unit cost per flight hour. And, in fact, Delta has decided to remove the remaining 50 Endeavor 50-seaters from the Delta network, leaving Endeavor with only 35 aircraft in scheduled service. This further reduction of Endeavor's active fleet will only create higher unit costs, which equates to a business model that is no longer sustainable in this competitive regional environment.
I understand that today's news is very difficult and raises many questions for you and your family. Human Resources is prepared to directly assist you during this time. They will post a memo and other documents on the Human Resources Epic page to keep you informed of the assistance available and to help answer many of your questions. We will also have staff available over the weekend to answer questions if needed. If after reviewing the information on Epic you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out to your departmental leadership as well.
The discontinuation of Endeavor's operations is in no way a failure or a reflection of your work; it is an unfortunate necessity due to the economic limitations of our aging aircraft, cost structure, the long-term outlook for 50-seat aircraft, and our challenging industry and economy. The quality of our operations has continued to be outstanding during our lengthy restructuring efforts, and I am honored to have had the opportunity to lead such a committed team. I am asking that each of you recognize the importance of remaining focused on safety and the job at hand as we continue operations throughout the wind-down period. Your continued commitment and your dedication to a safe and reliable operation is a testament to the professional team we have built here at Endeavor..
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That is cruel to the extreme, however it may be a likely outcome. Without doubt, the writing is on the wall, and Endeavor may not be alone. What really chaps my a** is how much pressure the major "partners" are putting on the regionals, while creaming the benefits of feed to their own coffers.
Being wholly owned is the worst case for any regional airline, as the situation of Comair proves.
This I firmly believe will unfortunately happen to 9E during the course of the next year. The smart move for all in this unfortunate situation is to continue to seek a way out of that place.
Genny has said thousands will be able to join his flock soon. PM him. He is so full of advice he is just yearning to share. Just think. He could be in your left seat some day, that's incentive enough to bail isn't it?
 
And by the way, I am forced to compliment Genny on his very well written posts. He does appear to be a very educated individual. His posts are factual, and often informative, however the manner of his egotistical presence taken together with his "keyboard time" does make one somewhat suspicious if in fact he is a pilot at all. He just doesn't fit the Delta pilot mold.
They simply aren't like him/her. I have listened to them for the last 15k flight hours or so in and out of Atlanta. Genny, you just don't sound like a Delta pilot. Give us the proof!
 
And by the way, I am forced to compliment Genny on his very well written posts. He does appear to be a very educated individual. His posts are factual, and often informative, however the manner of his egotistical presence taken together with his "keyboard time" does make one somewhat suspicious if in fact he is a pilot at all. He just doesn't fit the Delta pilot mold.
They simply aren't like him/her. I have listened to them for the last 15k flight hours or so in and out of Atlanta. Genny, you just don't sound like a Delta pilot. Give us the proof!

Proof? Here ya go:

"wind check?" "how long is final?" "Follow the RJ on the Victor Loop." "Runway 28? Any chance for 27L???" "delete the speed at Hyzman." "RNAV Snuffy."

Ok, does any of that "sound" like a DL pilot? This is still an anonymous board... And I've got an opinion about this industry, and I enjoy this board...



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Sounds like you listen to "atc live" a lot.

Why don't you ask a question about the ATL airport, maybe where a restaurant is any pilot would know, or something operational that isn't confidential.

You can do the same for every DL hub, I'll try to answer. But honestly, I don't care if people don't believe me. I give my opinions and call it like I see it. I respond to everyone (another reason for a high post total), and I get plenty of PMs where people are seeking some sort of industry advice. I'm happy to give it, too.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Proof? Here ya go:

"wind check?" "how long is final?" "Follow the RJ on the Victor Loop." "Runway 28? Any chance for 27L???" "delete the speed at Hyzman." "RNAV Snuffy."

Ok, does any of that "sound" like a DL pilot? This is still an anonymous board... And I've got an opinion about this industry, and I enjoy this board...



Bye Bye---General Lee

The proof that you aren't a DAL pilot is easy. If you were one, the union and/or company would have found out who you are by now and reeled you in.

Ask ShyGuy/Flyer how that works.

The fact that you spell out 5 letter identifiers the way they sound instead of how they appear in the FMS makes me question if you are any kind of pilot at all. That and I think I remember you sounding out FOQA at some point instead of writing the proper acronym.

But since you asked for a question to prove yourself, where is the pet kennel in ATL?
 
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The proof that you aren't a DAL pilot is easy. If you were one, the union and/or company would have found out who you are by now and reeled you in.

Ask ShyGuy/Flyer how that works.

The fact that you spell out 5 letter identifiers the way they sound instead of how they appear in the FMS makes me question if you are any kind of pilot at all. That and I think I remember you sounding out FOQA at some point instead of writing the proper acronym.

But since you asked for a question to prove yourself, where is the pet kennel in ATL?

The pet kennel? Pilots would know that?? Obviously at your Mom's house. Whatever dumbazz. And I misspelled FOQA..... And that's your evidence? Five letter identifiers "sound" the way I wrote them. He said I didn't "sound" like a pilot. I wrote them as they "sound...." Get it yet genius? I didn't know YOU needed it spelled like it is in the FMS. Funny stuff.... I don't need your approval. I simply don't care. I enjoy this board, and I will continue. Goodnight detective Idiot!

Oh, here you go:

GDNIT DUMAZ!



Bye Bye---General Lee


PS: Here's an article for you about companies enforcing what employees say online or media policies.



By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
JANUARY 21, 2013 WSJ

As Facebook and Twitter become as central to workplace conversation as the company cafeteria, federal regulators are ordering employers to scale back policies that limit what workers can say online.

Employers often seek to discourage comments that paint them in a negative light. Don't discuss company matters publicly, a typical social media policy will say, and don't disparage managers, co-workers or the company itself. Violations can be a firing offense.

But in a series of recent rulings and advisories, labor regulators have declared many such blanket restrictions illegal. The National Labor Relations Board says workers have a right to discuss work conditions freely and without fear of retribution, whether the discussion takes place at the office or on Facebook.
 
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The pet kennel? Pilots would know that?? Whatever dumbazz. And I misspelled FOQA..... And that's your evidence? Five letter identifiers "sound" the way I wrote them. He said I didn't "sound" like a pilot. I wrote them as they "sound...." Get it yet genius? I didn't know YOU needed it spelled like it is in the FMS. Funny stuff.... I don't need your approval. I simply don't care. I enjoy this board, and I will continue. Goodnight detective Idiot!

Oh, here you go:

GDNIT DUMAZ!



Bye Bye---General Lee

I'm a pilot, and I know where it is. Tell you what, next time you are in ATL and doing your walkaround, ask a ramper. Or better yet, ask tower. Report back to me with the correct answer and I will give you my sincerest apology.

You still didn't refute my primary evidence. How is it you can come on here doing your thing for so long without getting a royal spanking from the company you supposedly work for or the union you are supposedly a member of?

It only took Virgin a couple of months to figure out who ShyGuy/Flyer was and tell him to cool it. You just keep going and going and you "work" for a company that seems to place a greater emphasis on reputation and appearance.

In any case, I seem to have struck a mighty big nerve based on the tongue lashing I just got, so I think you have proven my point........
 
I'm a pilot, and I know where it is. Tell you what, next time you are in ATL and doing your walkaround, ask a ramper. Or better yet, ask tower. Report back to me with the correct answer and I will give you my sincerest apology.

You still didn't refute my primary evidence. How is it you can come on here doing your thing for so long without getting a royal spanking from the company you supposedly work for or the union you are supposedly a member of?

It only took Virgin a couple of months to figure out who ShyGuy/Flyer was and tell him to cool it. You just keep going and going and you "work" for a company that seems to place a greater emphasis on reputation and appearance.

In any case, I seem to have struck a mighty big nerve based on the tongue lashing I just got, so I think you have proven my point........

The Kennel??? Maybe you know where that is around the C Concourse or maybe D, but I doubt any DL pilot knows what the heck you are talking about. The Kennel...... Riiiiiight....??? Is that the bathroom between Five Guys and Baja Fresh in the C Concourse?

And how can any company or union go after someone who doesn't show anything on their avatar as evidence who they supposedly work for? Can a company or union just demand that info? Are they the cops? What if I was just a "super fan" who knew a lot about a company? Could they do anything about that? The answer is NO. This is an anonymous board, and the privacy statement by the webmaster is very specific on privacy rules. Plus, I give my own opinions and don't speak for any group, and again my avatar is clear of any indication of a specific company. Plus, it doesn't hurt that I don't slam a specific company, and everyone slams ALPA.

I frequent this board because I enjoy the industry rumors, debate, and the entertainment value. That's how people should feel when it comes to an anonymous board.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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