End of year paycheck

[jonjuan]

But Cole, they are bringing us Atlanta!

Don't forget NYC.

 

[General Lee]

But Cole, they are bringing us Atlanta!

ATL, and DCA, and Mexico, and Caribbean, more LGA slots, CRW, ABE, MDT, PWM, Tunica, Gulfport, Moline, Bloomington, Key West, MIA, HPN, SWF, allnighters, and the arbitrator WILL AGREE. Enjoy it guys.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[RedDogC130]

I think Age would be a nice datapoint in this thread. I wonder if there is anyone under 30 who broke the $200k mark, or even under 35.

Here you go. I am 33.

 

[mayoplane]

You want an AAI rate? Here ya go:

4yr FO

Gross: $93,885

$6600 signing bonus(included in the gross)
$5800 per diem(included in the gross)
$8500 company contribution to 401k

850 block

Thanksgiving and Christmas off. Work most weekends but that's by choice.

Not the top of the heap but certainly not the bottom either.

That's more like....72,985? 81485? 401K match in there?....I don't think people are adding those extras to their gross....You don't have to try to make it look bigger than it is. Thank you for sharing though.

The bottom line, you deserve a better pay. A lot of us do. Regional pilots definitely deserve more like 85K(for FOs) as they do in other countries.

I think it was cool to see this information. Some people seem to get A LOT flying corporate jets. Some of these Airbus guys are doing pretty well too. In the end, I hope we get the pay and the respect we deserve.

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2nd year*, SWA
115K
680 hrs
(Reserve, did pick up here and there, mostly 15-16 days off)
*2months of 3rd year pay
(retro not included)
(Per diem 6000 not included)
(401K match 11000 not included)
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[Flyarcticcat]

You want an AAI rate? Here ya go:

4yr FO

Gross: $93,885

$6600 signing bonus(included in the gross)
$5800 per diem(included in the gross)
$8500 company contribution to 401k

850 block

Thanksgiving and Christmas off. Work most weekends but that's by choice.

Not the top of the heap but certainly not the bottom either.

Thank you for your numbers. Same for me with xmas and turkey day off.

Here is hoping all goes well with getting you on property.

Third year FO.

136,000 gross
5800 perdiem not included
6500 retro check not included
800 hours of block as a commuter.

Total pay for 2010 at SWa 148,300 about mid level in my class. Top wage earners were around 160,00.

 

[terryhfly]

Are we talking gross or net here? Either way it is so pathetic I want to cry!!!!

7 year Airbus FO Frontier: Gross $86,600 Net $58,800:bawling:

 

[SWA/FO]

So $93885-$5800-$6600= $81485, I made 148k ish as a 4 year FO, not including perdiem or retro for 750 hours. That a nice $67000/year pay raise for Airtran FOs.

Nice little raise. Hope your idiots don't ruin it for you good tranny dudes.

General, We could list our cities too.

You know nothing about our SLI, you went through a Delta/NWA SLI..... and you ended up on the good end, thats why you like to listen to yourself talk/type on the keyboard.

Fact is some NWA guys lost out, some lost their seats too. It happened (tranny types).

The ONLY things similar about Delta/NWA SLI is we have 3 arbitrators like you guys did and we have the same law firm you guys did. Thats it - so shut your trap, you bring nothing to the table or this forum. Go fly one of your awesome trips and leave your computer at home.

 

[ivauir]

It's funny, a few years ago you guys where the bottom of the barrel as far as pay and benefits.

We've been at or near the top in W2 pay (pay rates never tell the whole story) since I've been here amigo.

A little humility, and an appreciation of the time others have put
into their careers would be in order.

Back atcha. Getting hired at SWA didn't just "happen" for anyone. Maybe you should show some respect for your AAI brothers and sisters who busted their butts to get here.

No "Seat-Grab" Windfall.

I couldn't agree more. You stay in your seat, under your contract. We'll stay in ours. It is unacceptable for your 50% windfall to delay the upgrade of a single SWA pilot.

175K (including retro)
Seniorish FO
Not very aggressive on the open time this year

 

[SWA/FO]

I couldn't agree more. You stay in your seat, under your contract. We'll stay in ours. It is unacceptable for your 50% windfall to delay the upgrade of a single SWA pilot.

Stay in your seat, behind your fence and enjoy tranny pay (for at least 24 months longer).

 

[Kharma Police]

Stay in your seat, behind your fence and enjoy tranny pay (for at least 24 months longer).

The guy works for SWA, in fact it says it in his profile. He was slamming AirTran (as usual) so I guess you decided to agree with his asinine post for what reason?

 

[SWA/FO]

Yeah, I agree with his post, whats your point.

You guys want a fair SLI, right? Well a fair SLI might mean some of you lose your seats. If your seniority can't hold it on the combine list then thats how it works....but they you guys cry more....I want my 50% raise and my seat. "We have ATL, we have 50 airplanes on order" Blah, blah blah.

You are the only ones (pilotwise) that want this deal.

 

[Kharma Police]

Yeah, I agree with his post, whats your point.

You guys want a fair SLI, right? Well a fair SLI might mean some of you lose your seats. If your seniority can't hold it on the combine list then thats how it works....but they you guys cry more....I want my 50% raise and my seat. "We have ATL, we have 50 airplanes on order" Blah, blah blah.

You are the only ones (pilotwise) that want this deal.

We will accept what the arbitrator gives us. If they put me in the right seat or keep you in your current position as an FO, then so be it. I'm willing to accept the decision, are you?

 

[SWA/FO]

We will accept what the arbitrator gives us. If they put me in the right seat or keep you in your current position as an FO, then so be it. I'm willing to accept the decision, are you?

Yes....

 

[Count Dracula]

95K Corporate 280 BLK

 

[Grizz]

NJA Captain. 3/4 year on year 8 pay. Started year 9 pay in October.

15 Day schedule until October, then 7 on / 7 off.

$132,518

That's about 10% above base for overtime, holiday, after-midnight penalty, etc.

280 Hours block.

Buttloads more hours sitting around FBOs on standby.

An additional $11,000 in 401(k) match money not included in the above numbers.

Not SWA numbers but not bad considering where we were in 2004.

 

[wings421]

$82,500. 2nd year / 3rd year M88/90 pay at DL.

444 block.

If there is a bright spot, its that I averaged 20 full days off at home as a commuter.

How are the SWA guys making that kind of bank? These #'s can't be just at straight pay are they? If so, :bawling:

 

[Guppy Guy]

So 93885-5800-6600=81485, I made 148k ish as a 4 year FO, not including perdiem or retro for 750 hours. That a nice 67000/year pay raise for Airtran FOs.

Yes it is.

By the way, I just would like to thank the SWA crew I was drinking with the other night in FLL. We had a great time. Clearly not all of your colleagues are as disturbed about this as you. I hope for your sake you are able to resolve your hostile feelings and move on. In the end I think you'll be much happier but that's up to you.

Looking forward to working with all my new Southwest brothers and sisters. Beers are on me.

 

[cole]

I'm not hostile at all, there isn't much I can do as a line pilot when it comes down to the final SLI. I was just stating the obvious. Some of your airtran fellow pilots want the world, I just don't want to get the shaft.

 

[General Lee]

I'm not hostile at all, there isn't much I can do as a line pilot when it comes down to the final SLI. I was just stating the obvious. Some of your airtran fellow pilots want the world, I just don't want to get the shaft.

Cole,

You want what YOU think is fair. What scares you is that a neutral, someone who supposedly is fair and balanced, will hear both sides and then make a decision based on that testimony. Everyone wants a good outcome for their own team, but in the end it will be what is FAIR that will result in the SLI. SWA and Airtran may not be total equals, but they aren't total opposites. What does that mean? Integration of the lists. That's called business. The AT guys just got a new contract, and if it takes a year to do the SLI (hope not), then their pay checks will be a lot closer to yours thanks to that new pay scale. That is what the arbitrator is looking at, current pay rates, and they just got a raise. They will get another big one soon, too. Good luck to all of you.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[goahead]

Has the big shot GL posted his earnings yet??? Maybe he's still typing 00000's on the end of it. Post it home boy, oh yea enjoy your day, have a great trip, live life to the fullest, and be all you can be; congrats on the lie flats, super cool.