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atpcliff

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Hi!

They just opened up again for FOs (no DECs), and their minimums are loosened somewhat compared with the last time they were open.

Conditions there have deteriorated, but it is still decent (if you think DAL and CAL and FedEx and Cathay are decent...if you don't, there's no hope for you!), and it is the best in the Middle East.

Estimated upgrade time noiw about 8 years.

cliff
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Hi!

They just opened up again for FOs (no DECs), and their minimums are loosened somewhat compared with the last time they were open.

Conditions there have deteriorated, but it is still decent (if you think DAL and CAL and FedEx and Cathay are decent...if you don't, there's no hope for you!), and it is the best in the Middle East.

Estimated upgrade time noiw about 8 years.

cliff
NBO

Cliff,

I think you once mentioned that you knew some people at EK on the 777. How are they liking their jobs there in light of the changes in conditions? Have their opinions changed much? On average, how many days per month are they flying or away from home (Dubai)?
 
I've heard they will give you a rejection letter in about a day if you don't have the "over 55000kg" time.... Any truth to this?

Like most, my time is all CRJ, and Netjets time.

Anyone have any knowledge of this?
 
Hi!

Typhoonpilot knows the most.

I know one guy there from my old airline....don't know what fleet he is on.

Heard hiring again in Oct.

Sounds like things are definitely worse than they were before, but isn't that the same everywhere?

From what I have heard, I would say you just have to compare your current job to EK. If you think your current job is decent....EK probably not much better. If you are unemployed, or in a job like mine (I'm on a trip that will probably turn out to be about 270 days long, slightly longer than most trips at other airlines.), then EK is better.

cliff
NBO
 
I was a little suprised at the pay scales on APC...thought it would be much higher...But in today's market I'm sure I'm just one of thousands who sent their stuff in this week...I'm current so I might have that going for me even though all my time is lighter jets.
 
FWIW....

I've been here a year and a half on the Bus.

I'm really enjoying it, even though I, like most others, don't agree with the latest changes.

The quality of life is actually very good and the contract is very decent.

Like everything there are things that are good and things that need to be fixed.

If anybody has questions feel free to shoot me a PM.
 
I was a little suprised at the pay scales on APC...thought it would be much higher...But in today's market I'm sure I'm just one of thousands who sent their stuff in this week...I'm current so I might have that going for me even though all my time is lighter jets.

Those pay scales are a bit old. They also do not reflect the flight pay (adds up to another 1k US per month average).
EK's pay scale is not the best out there but the whole package is what makes it attractive to most people here.
When you include things like tax-free compensation, free medical and dental, transport from/to work, schooling for up to 3 kids, etc, then it becomes a better deal.
Good luck!
 
Another perspective.....

From April to June of last year they put most of the successful candidates into a holding pool. From what I can work out there were about 100. They cherry-picked the 50 guys that had Boeing/Airbus and/or intl time and gave them classes in Aug, Sep and Oct of this year. The rest of us have been told to essentially forget it.

Those that were told no-go were pretty much all RJ pilots. So I'd be highly surprised if anyone with only CRJ/ERJ time was to get a call in the near future. Like all things aviation, that will change at some point but probably not in the next 12-18 months. Currency is a big for them; you have to have flown an aircraft in the last 6 months to be considered.
 
Yeah I figured that with the tax free living and free housing it would work out to be a great deal... I'm at Netjets currently so we have it pretty good. I've gotten pretty used to the QOL and hope every where I apply can come close...

With only light jet time I'm not holding my breathe. But then again I think alot of the United furloughs etc. have been grounded for a while and may not meet the currency requirements. Some of us light jet guys may slip through the cracks..
 
1500 hours in the 767 with SIX types and including the A320....do I have a shot?


recent, 10K+ hours INTL, GLASS, ETOPS, ETC....Furloughed UAL.
 

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