effin colgate

[jellynuts]

Bottom line is that this whole industry sucks, we don't really have a union at all. And I'm certainly not saying I work for the best airline out there, but at least I can say I'm not a bottom feeder. Which is really all that you are, airlines like yours are the part of the reason this industry sucks. Sorry but the truth hurts.....

 

[zasca]

What is the deal with the colgan LGA base? Is it just temporary until Newark opens, or permanent? How much warning did they give that it was opening and where the hell did they pull you guys from? Must be obnoxious the way management opens and closes bases so fast...

 

[WSurf]

Do you guys get moving days and moving expenses?

 

[vectorvictor]

Do you guys get moving days and moving expenses?

No but they got free "Who's your Buddy T-shirts?" Did you guys read his resume...not to change the topic but we're up the %^&$ creek; no sign of the paddle. Thanks 155....nice to be part of a "family" run company. You really thought that one through.

Jellynuts....sorry you're bummed dude. The last thing I would want to do is to take money out of your pocket or food out of your mouth. That is the honest truth. You and I know we have NO control over this mess we are in. On the bright side....when the trips are cancelled due to lack of crews, then salaries and QOL will increase for both of us.

BTW Kaman would own you in a throw down.

 

[Beech Balls]

Kaman is a big dude...I certainly wouldn't mess with 'im.You'll probably outrun him though!

 

[suupah]

Kaman is a big dude...I certainly wouldn't mess with 'im.You'll probably outrun him though!

Well if jellynuts goes through with the ffdo program size won't matter. Kaman can't outrun bullets. that is unless he had been taking training from chuck norris!

 

[Mr Wu]

Jellynuts was already owned by big gay Michael at gate 9 in BOS.

 

[30West]

but at least I can say I'm not a bottom feeder. Which is really all that you are, airlines like yours are the part of the reason this industry sucks. Sorry but the truth hurts.....

So you are saying that PDT is the benchmark by which all other airlines should be measured?

If your answer to that is yes, then please put down the mad Dog 20/20, you've had enough.

If your answer to that is no, then pot, meet kettle.

And you have also assumed, incorrectly, that I am a regional airline pilot. So tell me, who is the bottom feeder here?

 

[flyf15]

Watch those Saabs show up in MEM with red tails...

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

So you are saying that PDT is the benchmark by which all other airlines should be measured?

If your answer to that is yes, then please put down the mad Dog 20/20, you've had enough.

If your answer to that is no, then pot, meet kettle.

And you have also assumed, incorrectly, that I am a regional airline pilot. So tell me, who is the bottom feeder here?

Is PDT the end-all-be-all of airlines? Hell no.

However, if someone is seriously trying to make a comparison between Colgan and PDT as far as regional pay, QOL and workrules go, it is THEY who need to put down the cheap whino juice.

PDT comes out ahead in every objective category... Period. True regionals generally suck. True you work your arse off at all of them. But my days off, vacation and pay are better at PDT than they would be any day at Colgan.

Oh and Colgan's 400 rates? I can't believe them. Insane.

 

[30West]

Is PDT the end-all-be-all of airlines? Hell no.

However, if someone is seriously trying to make a comparison between Colgan and PDT as far as regional pay, QOL and workrules go, it is THEY who need to put down the cheap whino juice.

PDT comes out ahead in every objective category... Period. True regionals generally suck. True you work your arse off at all of them. But my days off, vacation and pay are better at PDT than they would be any day at Colgan.

Oh and Colgan's 400 rates? I can't believe them. Insane.

True PDT comes out ahead, but there are worse than CJC also.
Hell I remember back in the day 10 years or so ago PDT was THE place to be. Great pay, QOL etc, from the guys I knew who worked there.
But look how far all regionals, collectively, have fallen. Guaranteed, none have yet touched bottom.
It's easy to throw stones at a certain pilot group, but be careful because there is nothing that guarantees your regional won't be next. Not even ALPA.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

True.

The fortunes of all airlines ebb and flow. Thats why I laugh so hard at the "Goin' to CHQ upgradin' in 2 months United in a year" Piedmont new hires. Maybe or maybe not homey. Hell, on 9/10/01 I was 6 months from upgrade at PDT. It took me 3.5 more years.

I had a lady CHQ EMB-145 CA once tell me that the "growth here (chq) will NEVER stop." Even though I was sitting in her jumpseat, I laughed out loud. Thanks for the ride, really, but you might want to get some glasses for that lack of foresight. Could be deadly to your expectations...

And no, ALPA can't guarentee anything. But some representation beats none at all hands down.

 

[vectorvictor]

True.



And no, ALPA can't guarentee anything. But some representation beats none at all hands down.

That's for sure my friend. Hey one thing nice about Colgan, I do sleep at home just about every night. (For now.)

 

[G2T]

I don't talk to the hired help.

Ooooo, a WO shot at the contracts, nice. Unfortunately being owned by UsAir doesn't mean everything! Big Brother is rather oppressive, and definitely not the kind of guy I'd introduce my sister to.

 

[flyforfood77777]

If you have the luxury of automatically getting hired somewhere as soon as you get that magic turbine PIC number, fine, go to that substandard regional. But if you may have to spend more than 2 years there, you may want to actually do some research on things like contracts, quality of life, and financial benefits beyond hourly pay (healthcare, profit-sharing, other bonuses). All regionals are a joke to some extent in terms of pay, but you can at least have decent quality of life. And I am sick of hearing that "I need to pay the bills, feed my family" bs rhetoric. You can make more with a decent cfi/135 job than year 3 at a lot of these companies. In terms of ALPA, they don't do a ton in terms of making this a viable career, but they do tons in terms of job protection and the potential to have a decent contract that management actually adheres to.

 

[Thurman Merman]

Don't start threatening the jumpseat. Myself, no matter what airline you work for I bust my butt to get a jumpseater on. If there is an open seat on the airplane he gets on, period. I've put Pdt. guys on when we were ferrying to lga because of lack of a FA. We have a lot of Pdt. jumpseaters and I do not deny a one, I suggest anyone thinking otherwise should do the same, Colgan or Pdt.