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minitour said:
Okay...fair game

It's funny that you bring up the PTS because in The Commercial Pilot PTS I have in front of me it says:

VIII. AREA OF OPERATION: SLOW FLIGHT AND STALLS
C. TASK: POWER-ON STALLS (ASEL and ASES)
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Objective. To determine that the applicant:
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7. Retracts flaps to the recommended setting, retracts the landing gear if retractable, after a positive rate of climb is established.

...so before I go busting the checkride for using 10* of flaps (it'll be in a 172RG) for the power on stall demonstration, tell me again why it's wrong?

-mini
This is like listening to third graders try to argue quantum mechanics...
 
Couple more ideas: Know where you are on a sectional all the time...don't rely on GPS or even a VOR...change the flashlight batteries once in awhile...carry a spare everything...an empty plastic liter bottle can be worth its weight in gold (when full)...update your weather hourly...invest in a good quality headset of your own...learn how to really read airport signs and runway markings...use worst case fuel burn figures off the charts.
 
Actually quantum mechanics was very understandable in the third grade. It becomes difficult when the college professors try to inflate their egos by making it difficult when they don't have a firm grasp on relativity on uncertainty.

Grab a copy of the book, "The Killing Zone." That's what you need to know to get through 300-500 hours. Hopefully you chose a good instructor and won't have to worry about hours .9-300.

Fly SAFE!
Jedi Nein
 
Goose Egg said:
...Also, I think it's kind of interesting that the use of any flap setting other than 0* is not allowed when the aircraft is within 100 lbs. of max gross weight. (I honestly have no idea why that is, but it is interesting.)

-Goose
...haven't been able to get a good answer on that either. I always thought the idea of a short field takeoff was to get off the ground the quickest...if you aren't using flaps, how does your ground roll shorten?

-mini

PS
Sorry for the confusion on the original post
 
Yep,

I've got a copy of "The Killing Zone" (Paul Craig) and also "Beyond the Checkride" (Howard Fried). I highly recommend both. Also, I've found that watching "Top Gun" at least three times a week is good mental preparation.

As for the short field, can't you kick in 10 degrees and hold Vx (in the -172)? And, for the soft-field, use flaps and then retract or reduce 'em in ground effect?
 
9GClub said:
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As for the short field, can't you kick in 10 degrees and hold Vx (in the -172)? And, for the soft-field, use flaps and then retract or reduce 'em in ground effect?
thats what I always thought (except for retracting in ground effect...I usually wait til I've cleared the obstacle and excellerated to Vy) but the RG POH says 0 flaps...still don't know why though...

-mini
 
This probably won't kill you, but it can be very distressing and embarassing... make sure you know how to work the audio panel on the airplane. I once screwed up the little 3 position switch in the 152 I was soloing in. Headphone, Speaker, or Off. And yep, somehow it ended up in the Off position without me knowing it. Good thing I was still only in the run-up pad. To this day I don't know how or when it got there, or how I got from the ramp to the run-up area with it off! Years later and a few more buttons on the audio panel, people still can do that, as it's not at all uncommon to hear folks talking to their push crew or passengers on clearance or ground. That's something I still have not done, but I'm sure I will at some point.
 
JediNein said:
Grab a copy of the book, "The Killing Zone." That's what you need to know to get through 300-500 hours. Hopefully you chose a good instructor and won't have to worry about hours .9-300.
9GClub said:
Yep,

I've got a copy of "The Killing Zone" (Paul Craig) and also "Beyond the Checkride" (Howard Fried). I highly recommend both.
I third the book - It kept me from even contemplating scud running back into my home field back when I was fresh out of the PPL checkride.
 

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