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Eagle Pilots Warn that Breaking Up American Eagle Would Harm Employees And Passengers

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Release #07EGL4
December 6, 2007

Eagle Pilots Warn that Breaking Up American Eagle Would Harm Employees And Passengers

Euless, TX – American Eagle pilots, a unit of the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l., have condemned AMR CFO Tom Horton’s public comments that he would consider selling off parts of American Eagle to interested buyers.

ALPA said that any deal that would separate all or part of Eagle from AMR to lower the wages of experienced pilots could cause many Eagle employees -- not only Eagle pilots, but also professional maintenance technicians and flight attendants -- to rethink their career choice at Eagle. It’s no secret that Eagle is currently having an extremely difficult time recruiting pilots. Being part of the AMR family provides stability, and without it, Eagle recruiting problems may be even more difficult as the busy holiday season approaches.

“Mr. Horton’s statements are irresponsible and cavalier. Splitting up Eagle flying would be a deal killer to our pilots,” said Captain Herb Mark, chairman of the American Eagle pilots’ union. “Our pilots do not want a return to the Eagle of the mid-1990s when four carriers made up Eagle and pilots were pitted against each other with no clear-cut work rules, different collective bargaining agents, and a lack of operational consistency.”

Dividing up American Eagle flying could potentially cause travel nightmares for the flying public in several cities the union said. The American Eagle route network is designed as one unit with a single goal—to feed American Airlines with the right aircraft on the right route. Dismantling that network would weaken American Airlines. Selling off routes or aircraft to existing carriers would also create a classic case of whipsawing—using one pilot group against another as leverage to drive down pay rates and alter work rules.

“Profit margins at regional carriers are already very slim. If managements try to take more from the labor groups, you will see a lot of pilots begin to leave the profession because the pay will be so low that working as an airline pilot will no longer be a worthwhile career choice,” said Captain Mark. “It’s not our responsibility to underwrite the profitability of airlines.”

He continued: “Lower costs must not come on the backs of pilots by leveraging experienced Eagle pilots against its competitors for work currently done by Eagle. Mr. Horton’s remarks have created uncertainty among our pilots and have become a huge distraction as they move passengers across the country this holiday season. We are already hearing from our pilots that they see little future at Eagle, and many are already making plans to seek employment elsewhere.”

ALPA approached the sales announcement with an open mind, but lacking a detailed plan, a clear leadership message, or the identity of an investor, it is impossible for the pilot group to think that this sale is a good thing.
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union representing more than 60,000 pilots at 42 airlines in the U.S. and Canada. With more than 3,000 pilots, American Eagle is a wholly owned subsidiary of AMR (NYSE: AMR) and provides feed to American Airlines as well as point-to-point service in North and Central America and the Caribbean.
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Eagle = ALPA = possible pay cuts (says article)

AA = APA = huge pay raises on the table



Does this really need a comment?
 
Huh....does anyone actually listen and care what pilots have to say?

The only people that listen to pilots are other pilots, and thats sometimes too much to ask.
 
Like AMR cares what happens to the pilots and passengers.
Pay cuts are not an option till 2013, and we will not be taking any.
 
At least ALPA had the sense to put their concerns ahead of the passengers. Brother. And ya' wonder why there is so much apathy out there. ALPA may be right, but was wrong by starting out 'me,me,me'. Just goes to show public opinion will never get better if ALPA doesn't start with the public.
 
Like AMR cares what happens to the pilots and passengers.
Pay cuts are not an option till 2013, and we will not be taking any.

Umm This is not true. Contracts have been broken in court especially with the judges ruling in favor of management. Example. Northwest and Comair
 
Release #07EGL4
December 6, 2007

Eagle Pilots Warn that Breaking Up American Eagle Would Harm Employees And Passengers

Euless, TX – American Eagle pilots, a unit of the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l., have condemned AMR CFO Tom Horton’s public comments that he would consider selling off parts of American Eagle to interested buyers.

ALPA said that any deal that would separate all or part of Eagle from AMR to lower the wages of experienced pilots could cause many Eagle employees -- not only Eagle pilots, but also professional maintenance technicians and flight attendants -- to rethink their career choice at Eagle. It’s no secret that Eagle is currently having an extremely difficult time recruiting pilots. Being part of the AMR family provides stability, and without it, Eagle recruiting problems may be even more difficult as the busy holiday season approaches.

“Mr. Horton’s statements are irresponsible and cavalier. Splitting up Eagle flying would be a deal killer to our pilots,” said Captain Herb Mark, chairman of the American Eagle pilots’ union. “Our pilots do not want a return to the Eagle of the mid-1990s when four carriers made up Eagle and pilots were pitted against each other with no clear-cut work rules, different collective bargaining agents, and a lack of operational consistency.”

Dividing up American Eagle flying could potentially cause travel nightmares for the flying public in several cities the union said. The American Eagle route network is designed as one unit with a single goal—to feed American Airlines with the right aircraft on the right route. Dismantling that network would weaken American Airlines. Selling off routes or aircraft to existing carriers would also create a classic case of whipsawing—using one pilot group against another as leverage to drive down pay rates and alter work rules.

“Profit margins at regional carriers are already very slim. If managements try to take more from the labor groups, you will see a lot of pilots begin to leave the profession because the pay will be so low that working as an airline pilot will no longer be a worthwhile career choice,” said Captain Mark. “It’s not our responsibility to underwrite the profitability of airlines.”

He continued: “Lower costs must not come on the backs of pilots by leveraging experienced Eagle pilots against its competitors for work currently done by Eagle. Mr. Horton’s remarks have created uncertainty among our pilots and have become a huge distraction as they move passengers across the country this holiday season. We are already hearing from our pilots that they see little future at Eagle, and many are already making plans to seek employment elsewhere.”

ALPA approached the sales announcement with an open mind, but lacking a detailed plan, a clear leadership message, or the identity of an investor, it is impossible for the pilot group to think that this sale is a good thing.
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union representing more than 60,000 pilots at 42 airlines in the U.S. and Canada. With more than 3,000 pilots, American Eagle is a wholly owned subsidiary of AMR (NYSE: AMR) and provides feed to American Airlines as well as point-to-point service in North and Central America and the Caribbean.

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This is a great response. I think we should all rethink our careers and get out of this industry! It can only get worse!
 
So this is how RAH will fly 170s for AMR..........

Wrong again. RAH could never fly E-170s for AMR. APA scope restricts to 50 70-seaters. And those 70-seaters MTOW can be no more than 75,000 lbs. So APA will have to give up scope in this contract round for anything like that to happen. Basically our ATRs and CRJ-700s are side-lettered in as one-time exemptions. If you haven't noticed, APA's scope protections are some of the best out there.
 
No, but Eagle could be after being spun off.
And our contract goes with us.

And to flying hi. Comparing Eagle and AA to Northwest and comair does not make any sense. All those airlines were bankrupt, and they were bankrupt under the old bankruptcy laws.
 
And our contract goes with us.

And to flying hi. Comparing Eagle and AA to Northwest and comair does not make any sense. All those airlines were bankrupt, and they were bankrupt under the old bankruptcy laws.

Yes, my point was that if we were spun off and we went into bankruptcy, our contract would be renegotiated.
 
Yes, my point was that if we were spun off and we went into bankruptcy, our contract would be renegotiated.
Yes, if we were to go bankrupt then that may happen. But we are too profitable for a judge to allow that too happen. The new bankruptcy laws make things a little harder on those who declare bankruptcy.
 
This is the airline world where protection is always one sided........MAIN LINE or regional I wonder which one alpa will back

I know its a tough one.......
 
This is the airline world where protection is always one sided........MAIN LINE or regional I wonder which one alpa will back

I know its a tough one.......
I am sure that you know that Eagle is ALPA, and AA is APA. So yes I do know in this case which one they will back.
 
Yes, my point was that if we were spun off and we went into bankruptcy, our contract would be renegotiated.

If AMR spun Eagle off and they plunged straight into bankruptcy the SEC would ensure that lots of executives went to prison.

As part of any IPO with an intent to sell at a good price there would have to be assurances that it was a healthy company. A healthy company with guaranteed profit does not just plunge into bankruptcy court. It would take AMR going into bankruptcy as well as several other "perfect storm" factors to all happen at once.
 

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