eagle jet international

[135pilot]

Is anyone familiar with the 135 operators used in the SIC piston program,their location would also be appreciated.
Thanks for your replies.

 

[Evansaero]

Are you looking to pay for your job??????

 

[135pilot]

message for evansaero
That is not the question being asked ,
thanks for your effort.

 

[ipilot]

Their main office is in Miami but they use quite a few companies for training. I think Ameri Flight is one of them. They have contract with these companies and u pay eagle jet for the hours u want and the airplane u want to fly. but where ever u go for job after this people will look into the hours u've got and buying the hours might not be helpful sometimes. Good luck anyway!!!



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[Icywings]

I did the FO program with Tyler Aviation. It is similar to Eagle Jet. I am flying a Sa227AT/AC (Metro III and Merlin IV) for Ameriflight. We fly everything from UPS and DHL stuff to newspapers. You are doing EVERYTHING the paid pilot would be doing. You are just paying for the hours.

Some may say that is not a good thing to do. I bet only a CFI will complain about it. As they decided to go the CFI route. I was to old to go the CFI route and I wanted to get my time real quickly. I also felt the experience would be better.

Well here is how you can figure the overall value. How much does it cost to purchase 250 hours in a Cessna 172 these days? Now take the $15,500 it will cost you to fly the Metro (through Tyler) and divide that out by 250 hours. Hmmmmmm....... what is a better deal?

Single engine, recreation time or a 16,000 pound turbo-prop under Part 135, flying on a schedule and having to fly through whatever is sent your way (weather,etc..). In addition, it is actually cheaper then a 172.

Now I'll address the job interview....
I have three friends that did the program that ALL got hired with regionals after they did the program. American Eagle, COEX and just last week Comair.

What I will say is that if you do ONLY do it in the Metro. I have been told there is GREAT respect for people who lfy this thing. I don't see why, it is not that hard, but the systems are much more complicated then a BE-1900. Again, this comes from guys at AMF that have flown both. I woul d also suggest Ameriflight. They are the largest 135 operator. Therefore it is the closest thing to a "Real" airline you can find. It is mostly all scheduled so you really learn and gain a ton of experiance.

I can offer anything else you need just let me know

Good Luck.

 

[jaybird]

Your gonna get it sell out.

 

[Timebuilder]

Icywings-

I'll bet you're not older than I am, and I support your right to make your own decision. I'm glad you're satisfied with it.

Perhaps that will give me the edge when we go for the same interview.

 

[ksus]

Why pay for a job, when you can earned ?
But hey , personal succes/satisfaction is overrated!!! right?

 

[jaybird]

"You are doing EVERYTHING the paid pilot would be doing. You are just paying for the hours."

Tell that to these guys here http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2995

"Some may say that is not a good thing to do. I bet only a CFI will complain about it. As they decided to go the CFI route. I was to old to go the CFI route and I wanted to get my time real quickly. I also felt the experience would be better.

Well here is how you can figure the overall value. How much does it cost to purchase 250 hours in a Cessna 172 these days? Now take the $15,500 it will cost you to fly the Metro (through Tyler) and divide that out by 250 hours. Hmmmmmm....... what is a better deal?

Single engine, recreation time or a 16,000 pound turbo-prop under Part 135, flying on a schedule and having to fly through whatever is sent your way (weather,etc..). In addition, it is actually cheaper then a 172."

So your saying you don't like to put in a lot of hard work. That speaks volumes of yourself. When you want to go on a date with a girl "real quickly" do you go and find yourself a hooker? That's the easy thing to do right?

 

[350DRIVER]

I second the post by Jaybird- ..... Icywings did nothing except take a job away from someone who "EARNED" it although a Captain there who had the unfortunate task of flying with these "radio players" as he would call them once told me that most people who do the Tyler/Eagle Jet programs have flying skills that have alot to be desired and that they "all" have to be babied since they are "buying" the job which makes sense... since most pilots who earn a job and have paid their dues are expected to succeed and excel due mostly to their "qualifications" something that money just doesn't "buy"...

 

[starchkr]

I still do not see why you would want to pay for a job of which you can be paid to do. Crazy!!!

SIC at AirNet and bring home 16K plus full benefits.

 

[Freight Dog]

I did the FO program with Tyler Aviation. It is similar to Eagle Jet. I am flying a Sa227AT/AC (Metro III and Merlin IV) for Ameriflight. We fly everything from UPS and DHL stuff to newspapers. You are doing EVERYTHING the paid pilot would be doing. You are just paying for the hours.

Some may say that is not a good thing to do. I bet only a CFI will complain about it. As they decided to go the CFI route. I was to old to go the CFI route and I wanted to get my time real quickly. I also felt the experience would be better.

Well here is how you can figure the overall value. How much does it cost to purchase 250 hours in a Cessna 172 these days? Now take the $15,500 it will cost you to fly the Metro (through Tyler) and divide that out by 250 hours. Hmmmmmm....... what is a better deal?

Single engine, recreation time or a 16,000 pound turbo-prop under Part 135, flying on a schedule and having to fly through whatever is sent your way (weather,etc..). In addition, it is actually cheaper then a 172.

Now I'll address the job interview....
I have three friends that did the program that ALL got hired with regionals after they did the program. American Eagle, COEX and just last week Comair.

What I will say is that if you do ONLY do it in the Metro. I have been told there is GREAT respect for people who lfy this thing. I don't see why, it is not that hard, but the systems are much more complicated then a BE-1900. Again, this comes from guys at AMF that have flown both. I woul d also suggest Ameriflight. They are the largest 135 operator. Therefore it is the closest thing to a "Real" airline you can find. It is mostly all scheduled so you really learn and gain a ton of experiance.

I can offer anything else you need just let me know

Good Luck.

Hey Icywings... I used to a captain at Ameriflight who flew with you EJI people. Ya know why most of us weren't b*tching at yas? Because Ameriflight paid us a babysitting fee in addition to our regular pay whenever we had an EJI character. Ya know what else? You are *NOT* a required crewmember at Ameriflight. The only FO's at Ameriflight that are required are the E-120 FO's and LR35 FO's.

Why people look favorably on Metro drivers at AMF? It's because they're SINGLE PILOT TYPED in the aircraft. Same with B1900. That freight is going with ya or without ya in those... not so in Brasilia or Lear.. but then again, those seats arent for sale..

 

[350DRIVER]

Exactly the info that I received- Although I think they should charge a higher babysitting fee due to the sloppy flying skills and lack of overall experience BUT thankfully since they are not required on those airplanes all they can damage would be the "radios" IF they are even lucky enough to be "allowed" to operate them by the PIC.. Atleast the 120 and Lears which do require a SIC won't touch the "time buyers" and both pilots are highly qualified and "deserving" to fly that equipment. -



On a more serious note God Bless the families and victims of 9-11-01 as we as a nation mark the six month anniversary of the day that changed America forever.

 

[de727ups]

Freight Dog

Exactly what do the EJI guys do besides load the boxes. Did you trade legs with them? Just let them watch the autopilot? Work the radios? Did Amflight give you guidance on how to handle these guys? Just curious.......

 

[Freight Dog]

Boxes at BUR were loaded by ramp people. But at outstations, both of us would be loading/unloading. The problem with them is just that.... low time. Example... I had an EJI guy rotate a fully loaded Chieftain right at Vmc and overrotated it so the speed fell below Vmc despite the fact that i briefed him on company procedures to use Vyse as rotation speed. Mind you this is right on takeoff, 45 lbs below max gross weight.

AMF gave us some guidelines, but compared to PNF/PF duties, flows and checklists items for C/FO or PF/PNF like you get at 121 carrier.. nope. At least not in PA31. I'd show them how it's done and how the company expected us to get it done, and I'd watch them do it. The nice thing was that we could always deny having an SIC aboard, that's why the company would pay us that extra $6/hr for babysitting as an incentive to take them.

We had non-EJI SIC's as well who were actually employees of Ameriflight under Captain-Intern program who were shy of FAR 135 requirements to be PIC's in certain areas, so they'd come along. Those guys were generally WAY sharper than EJI people. We're talking say CFI's who were a tad shy of meeting the IFR FAR 135 PIC requirements.. They'd get paid to come along as SIC.