DW again! What does that mean?

[Neubyfly]

My prediction is that the ALPA President will be elected in accordance with the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws. As it should be.

Then DW will be led away in handcuffs as he should be!

 

[pylut]

Good riddance.

Step one complete. Now for step two...bring on the handcuffs

 

[Freight Dog]

Duane is about to get his dose of reality. Back to the line, buddy! Now you'll be a real ALPA pilot - with a nice paycut to boot. Just like the rest of us...

 

[xanderman]

Hello?

Rez... Are you there? Hello? Hello? Hello? Echo. Echo. Echo.

You do realize the your boy Worthless is Gone. Gone. Gone. Right? :laugh:

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez... Are you there? Hello? Hello? Hello? Echo. Echo. Echo.

You do realize the your boy Worthless is Gone. Gone. Gone. Right? :laugh:

I was on a three day. No internet. Are you ok?

Did I endorse the guy?

Looks the the anybody but DW mantra worked. Let's hope the new savior, one guy to fix all of our careers, is the right choice...

Let's see.... I've got a day off....

Things to do today...

Fix my airline career

1. Lower oil prices
2. Get good management
3. Eliminate Terrorism
4. Emerge from BK
5. Reduce capacity
6. Go back in time and stop 9/11 and recession

But wait folks! Why do all that! When you can get Duane-B-Gone! Call in the next five mins and get free DW toilet paper and all your problems will be solved!




One monkey doesn't run the show and he doesn't stop it either....

It is a good thing Prater won, it was looking like you might have to actually participate in your union....








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[PCL_128]

Duane is about to get his dose of reality. Back to the line, buddy! Now you'll be a real ALPA pilot - with a nice paycut to boot. Just like the rest of us...

Back to the line? Paycut? Are you nuts? The chances of Captain Woerth going back to the line are nil. You guys just did him a big favor. Now he's available to take a consulting or lobbying job for a 7-figure salary, and he'll have a lot more time off (you guys do realize that Captain Woerth has only had 29 days off a year since he's been in office, right?).

 

[cactusboy53]

Rez;
Weak on facts??
1. Duane has not taken any paycuts (do you know otherwise?) - FACT
2. Admin staff did negotiate a retirement - FACT
3. "Washington Insider" was out of DW's mouth - FACT

Facts be gone....so is DW.

FFDO, Foreign Ownership issues, etc. would have come right along...my opinion. Time for DW to say "Gear Up". Prater is in command now. Any bets on DW ever returning to the flight deck full time??

Being a lobbist would pay better, and he could stay in DC.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez;
Weak on facts??
1. Duane has not taken any paycuts (do you know otherwise?) - FACT
2. Admin staff did negotiate a retirement - FACT
3. "Washington Insider" was out of DW's mouth - FACT

Facts be gone....so is DW.

FFDO, Foreign Ownership issues, etc. would have come right along...my opinion. Time for DW to say "Gear Up". Prater is in command now. Any bets on DW ever returning to the flight deck full time??

Being a lobbist would pay better, and he could stay in DC.

1. Since you say it is a FACT. Can you provide a reference? I offer the pay formula for ALPA Officers as approved by the BOD. As the concessionary contracts that were approved by the membership were ratified, his pay went down.

2. Air Line Pilots negotiate too. What are you getting at?

3. If your agenda is political and occurs in Washington DC, would you want an insider? Someone who knew who the players are and had and audience with them when it came time to address your issues?

 

[pylut]

One monkey doesn't run the show and he doesn't stop it either....


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True, but at least there's one less clown causing monkey business now.

(Hey this Rez double speak is kind of fun. I should have tried it way earlier. I could probably drone on like this for hours and say nothing)

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

True, but at least there's one less clown causing monkey business now.

(Hey this Rez double speak is kind of fun. I should have tried it way earlier. I could probably drone on like this for hours and say nothing)

And if more pilots actively particpated in thier careers the action of one clown would be limited.....

But it is easier to do nothing and complain then step up to the plate....

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez;
Weak on facts??
1. Duane has not taken any paycuts (do you know otherwise?) - FACT
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I'll help you out..........

Recall UAL2000 and DAL2001 for the increase in 2001. Then the membership started voting on concessionary contracts to lower the presidents pay. If each pilot had balls to stand up to management the Presidents pay and thier own pay would would not have dropped. By each pilot voting for concessionary contracts they were also saying....

We don't want a

• National seniority list
• National Pay Rates
• Nationwide strike

What each pilot group was saying collectively was "let's live to fight another day"

Duane Woerth​

President​

Air Line Pilots​

Historical Salary Information

Year Salary % Raise Title
2005 $ 351,186 -15.4% PRESIDENT
2004 $ 415,026 -2.0% PRESIDENT
2002 $ 423,705 -3.5% PRESIDENT
2001 $ 439,296 40.2% PRESIDENT
2000 $ 313,392 — PRESIDENT​

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Finally, the DOL considers expenses as income. So when Prater takes up residence in DC to represent the pilots, just like all Presidents have done, his expenses will have to be reported as income. That is what inflates the values and causes the ignorant masses to go ape sh!t.

Here is the next ALPA National Officer (there are four) First Vice President listed as number 32 below DW​

Historical Salary Information
Year Salary % Raise Title
2005 $ 0 — First Vice-president
2004 $ 0 — First Vp
2002 $ 0 — First Vice Pres
2001 $ 0 — First Vice Pres
2000 $ 0 — First Vice Pres​

Here is salary info for the current ALPA Vice President of Admin. He is listed number 47 in pay at ALPA below DW.

Historical Salary Information
Year Salary % Raise Title
2005 $ 0 — Vice President Admin
2004 $ 0 — Vp Administrati​

Here is the fourth Vice President listed as number 54.

Historical Salary Information

Year Salary % Raise Title

2005 $ 0 — Vice President Finance​

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Now, each of the three VP's still get paid from thier respective carriers and based on thier longevity and equipement they hold. Since the pilots at thier carriers have been voting to take pay cuts and save thier jobs these guys have been taking pay cuts too... Here what they make...

First Vice-president$ 0$ 180,874$ 180,874
Vice President Admin$ 0$ 162,735$ 162,735
Vice President Finance$ 0$ 155,360$ 155,360​

Are these annual salaries ok for guys that work 12 hour days six to seven days a week?​

Finally these numbers are taken from unionfacts.org. Of course the numbers are factual but skewed. As mentioned earlier expenses must be reported as income. So the three salaries above in real dollars is even less....


Let's look at one more listing. The UAL MEC Chairman has $35,337 listed as compensation. But in reality those were his expenses.