Duty Time

[TheBrain]

At the time you report for duty, look back through the previous 10 hours. If you were at rest for all 10, you are legal.

Very VERY wrong.

 

[ClassG]

Legal Schmeegal.

Simple rules:

If you are offered a trip, and are concerned about duty/rest, you'll need to look over the planned itinerary VERY carefully.

If at any time during the entire series you will exceed 8 hours flight time from "that minute back 24 hours," you cannot fly the trip single-pilot.

If you might exceed 8 hours, but not more than 10 hours in ANY 24-hour lookback (from that minute back 24 hours) then you may fly with a QUALIFIED crewmember (trained,checked,current - by your operator in the capacity - PIC/SIC & right-seat/left-seat in the aircraft make/model - they will function.)

ALL COMMERCIAL FLYING counts in this lookback. If you conducted FREE flight instruction for a friend last night, you better be able to prove you were not compensated in any way. Even then, the FAA will likely rule that you have excercised the privilages of your commercial certificate, therefore it was COMMERCIAL FLYING.

As stated above, remember that for every minute you fly today, you MAY BE losing a minute off of yesterday's flying - it's a matter of timing (looking from this minute back 24 hours).

14 hour PRE-PLANNED duty day should be handed to you in writing before you start it. If given an itinerary where everything is planned for a legal completion, the 14 hours may be exceeded when circumstances arise which are beyond the control of the pilot and company. Example: Most FAA legal findings have allowed the operator to complete the series when the passengers agreed to a specific departure time and then "got stuck in traffic" for an extra (reasonable) period.

The 8 (or 10) hours flying rules may be exceeded if, again, TRULY beyond the control of the pilot and company. Example: holding in UNFORECAST/UNEXPECTED conditions for an extra 20 minutes.

Exceeding any flight or duty time needs to result in an extended rest period.

To be safe, just go with 16 hours ANY TIME your 14 hour duty day is exceeded. EVEN when the day in question is ALL PART 91. Just because you can legally accept stupid-long days as a corporate pilot, does not mean you are legal to begin flying Part 135 on "10 hours" rest. Apply part 135 rules to Part 91 day finish-ups, to be safe and legal.

PM me with any questions - I'll be glad to go into greater detail.

ClassG

 

[Princedietrich]

Very VERY wrong.

Childish flamebait. Go home and play on your Xbox.

 

[avbug]

14 hour PRE-PLANNED duty day should be handed to you in writing before you start it.

Not true. No such requirement exists, nor is it possible in most cases involving on-demand charter. For pilots operating on a regular schedule, the 14 hour duty period is known, but what may occur during that period often is not. For pilots not on a regular schedule, no 14 hour duty day exists (only a look-back rest requirement [read the thread and link above]).

Childish flamebait.

Possibly, but the poster is correct. Follow the link provided above for more detail, as I'm really tired of posting it over and over and over...

 

[Hawker rider]

It's not too complicated, but look at the link that Avbug posted.

The only thing to look out for is the tail-end positioning. You are allowed to do that part91, without the 135 "restrictions" but to home-base. If you decide to use that as a pre-position for a flight the next day and the start of that135 flight is not home base, you'd better cound the tail end as 135 too.. this is open for interpretation. But might get you into trouble if looked into.

 

[Nolife]

as I'm really tired of posting it over and over and over...

But avbug... I though it was your job to patrol the boards, correcting injustices, and keeping balance in cyberspace