Dubai to allow Rents to jump as much as 20%----article

[sat74]

I'm really not sure why so many people think a legacy is the end all be all. I've done it all and find working conditions and the general treatment of airline professionals to be very lacking in the usa and still declining. Bean counters despise us and that treatment of disdain is hard to tolerate these days after all the sacrifices given back so management can continue their climb up the corporate ladder. Personally, I'd rather be working for a company where I can drive to work, or be driven in this case, fly a trip with individuals from a diverse background, and enjoy the company of young, attractive and energetic cabin crew who enjoy their job instead of grannies bitching all day that someone wants a refill of their drink. I'll continue doing it until something better catches my eye but having to think about fighting for a jumpseat to get to work on an oversold flight and stay in a crap airport hotel on reserve does not appeal to me in any form. Expat life can be a great experience. And I don't have to listen to a bunch of fox news babble and obese doomsday preppers talking about guns and ammo all day.

 

[Whip Whitaker]

Classy reply GF.

Serious lack of SA on 8ss's part. An apology would be in order 8ss.

I saw PD in BKK on my last trip FJ. That guys just exudes babe attracting pheromones. I think he'd do well anywhere. Although EK certainly gives him a far younger and more diverse pool of talent to choose from than DAL did.

I'm really glad that EK has worked out well for many. When I first started touting it here and elsewhere as an option for Americans who were stuck in the regional rut; retired early to save their pensions; furloughed from a major; or just generally unhappy with their career progression in the States there were very few takers.

Fortune favors the bold and those of you who took the risk are enjoying the benefits now. I really wish you all the best.

I've moved on for a variety of reasons. It is the right move for me at this time. Much as I did ten+ years ago when I first started touting a move to Emirates, I am now suggesting some look at a move back to the States as a good career choice. Many are looking very actively at it. It all depends on one's personal circumstances and goals. It would probably be a great move for some, but not for others.



Typhoonpilot

I read sugarsugar's posts and I didn't see anything that I thought warranted an apology. What were you referring to? I'm not criticizing. I'm just curious.

 

[8sugarsugar]

I read sugarsugar's posts and I didn't see anything that I thought warranted an apology. What were you referring to? I'm not criticizing. I'm just curious.

My knee-jerk reaction was that Golden Falcon was a Delta guy from his comment that 20 year FO's at Delta make more than 20 year Captains at EK. I misconstrued his words to rhyme with the constant attacks from General Lee and Sniper attacking Emirates pilots.

And Sniper, you work at Mesa, you do not work at Delta. Sniper should be banned for threatening putting guys on blacklists at Delta etc etc...This forum should be open for free debate. I am really started to get tired of correcting all the false information being puked about Emirates.

I hope guys that wish to work for Emirates do not take advice from General or Sniper.

 

[Whip Whitaker]

My knee-jerk reaction was that Golden Falcon was a Delta guy from his comment that 20 year FO's at Delta make more than 20 year Captains at EK. I misconstrued his words to rhyme with the constant attacks from General Lee and Sniper attacking Emirates pilots.

And Sniper, you work at Mesa, you do not work at Delta. Sniper should be banned for threatening putting guys on blacklists at Delta etc etc...This forum should be open for free debate. I am really started to get tired of correcting all the false information being puked about Emirates.

I hope guys that wish to work for Emirates do not take advice from General or Sniper.

OK I follow now. Thanks. Happy New Year!

 

[flyboyike]

I hope guys that wish to work for Emirates do not take advice from General or Sniper.

Sniper can't even spell the word "shiny", so I wouldn't pay him much attention.

 

[fareview]

I'm really not sure why so many people think a legacy is the end all be all. I've done it all and find working conditions and the general treatment of airline professionals to be very lacking in the usa and still declining. Bean counters despise us and that treatment of disdain is hard to tolerate these days after all the sacrifices given back so management can continue their climb up the corporate ladder. Personally, I'd rather be working for a company where I can drive to work, or be driven in this case, fly a trip with individuals from a diverse background, and enjoy the company of young, attractive and energetic cabin crew who enjoy their job instead of grannies bitching all day that someone wants a refill of their drink. I'll continue doing it until something better catches my eye but having to think about fighting for a jumpseat to get to work on an oversold flight and stay in a crap airport hotel on reserve does not appeal to me in any form. Expat life can be a great experience. And I don't have to listen to a bunch of fox news babble and obese doomsday preppers talking about guns and ammo all day.

Spot on.

fv

 

[flyboyike]

And I don't have to listen to a bunch of fox news babble and obese doomsday preppers talking about guns and ammo all day.

They're not all obese.

 

[Golden Falcon]

The whole industry is crap really...world wide....I would rather be in a place where I could greet my loved one with a large hug and a kiss and not get arrested...in the same citynwhere the bars are infested with hookers...where a car accident is blamed on the offender...and not the non-emirati...that being said..one's chances of being car-jacked here is nil...your kids probably won't get killed in a school shooting...so one weighs the good and the bad....while ALPO is a bit of a toothless tiger, it is nice to know you won't get fired for a minor fender-bender or close call even before you get back to base...or some bearded idiot get you deported by filing a false police report you flipped him off...just because he doesn't like infidels in his country....it's all a matter of personal choice isn't it now...

 

[Flyer1015]

I'm all for nationalistic pride and everything, but this billboard in Dubai had me chuckling......

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/11236430564_2c1949b165_b.jpg

 

[General Lee]

The whole industry is crap really...world wide....I would rather be in a place where I could greet my loved one with a large hug and a kiss and not get arrested...in the same citynwhere the bars are infested with hookers...where a car accident is blamed on the offender...and not the non-emirati...that being said..one's chances of being car-jacked here is nil...your kids probably won't get killed in a school shooting...so one weighs the good and the bad....while ALPO is a bit of a toothless tiger, it is nice to know you won't get fired for a minor fender-bender or close call even before you get back to base...or some bearded idiot get you deported by filing a false police report you flipped him off...just because he doesn't like infidels in his country....it's all a matter of personal choice isn't it now...

Mostly correct, but things are improving in the States. Big time retirements coming, and legacy airlines are becoming more profitable and hence more stable due to consolidation. People that looked for greener (or sandier) pastures may be looking back towards the States for those reasons mentioned.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[sat74]

Mostly correct, but things are improving in the States. Big time retirements coming, and legacy airlines are becoming more profitable and hence more stable due to consolidation. People that looked for greener (or sandier) pastures may be looking back towards the States for those reasons mentioned.


Bye Bye---General Lee

That still has zero bearing on how one is treated by management goons. And last I checked there was no retirement age for cabin crew. My assessment remains.

 

[General Lee]

That still has zero bearing on how one is treated by management goons. And last I checked there was no retirement age for cabin crew. My assessment remains.

Huh? Which management goons are you talking about? Those management types know huge retirements are coming, and the pay is rising (DL has highest new hire pay in the US legacies) and the contract is a good one. New FARs were just created to combat fatigue. Has that made it over to the ME yet? How about those 2 man turns to India from all of the Gulf capitals? No thanks! And it appears you may have younger Cabin crew, but still need permission at some Gulf Carriers to marry them? Say what??? That's Fantastic, NOT!!! Is the ruler your Dad? Do you ever have to surrender passports too? Hmmmm.

Your assessment is way off.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[flyboyike]

And it appears you may have younger Cabin crew, but still need permission at some Gulf Carriers to marry them?

At least they're worth marrying. Or even just looking at, for that matter.

 

[Golden Falcon]

Management goons that sack and deport you for having a dinner in a public restaurant with the "wrong" cabin crew....

 

[8sugarsugar]

Management goons that sack and deport you for having a dinner in a public restaurant with the "wrong" cabin crew....

Doesn't sound like Emirates or Dubai.

Do you live in Saudi?