n757st
It's always sunny in JFK
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- Sep 2, 2003
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Hoffmeister, we are shrinking and furloughed as well. We still have 105 guys and girls on furlough. I think you'd better examine your argument again, it's flawed and somehow I can't help to feel like you are trying to pin the worlds woes on RAH because we sit just a little better than the next guy. Unlike other people on this site, I don't wish ill will on anyone else and I'm doing what I can to better our pilot group, airline, and relations with other groups. I'm sorry you feel you need to shake your fists at someone else for the problems that you seem to have.
I'm not sitting here shaking my fists, I am just reacting to the fact that earlier you agreed that all your want is an average contract and average work rules. I am not blaming my problems on you, you did not cause any of the issues really effecting me, but I do work under an industry leading contract, and our contract is not nearly good enough. By accepting an "average" contract you will affect me in 2011 when our contract is up, and will degrade my negotiating power. Every contract should add onto the one before it, by accepting anything less then industry leading you break that cycle, thus perpetuating low pay for first officers, mediocre pay for captains, and giving the majors more reason to farm out larger and larger aircraft. RP guys on this site keep on blaming the mainline pilots for being selfish and giving up scope, thus limiting those jobs. Its ironic that the Mesa pilots, and your talk of wanting only an average contract are doing the exact same thing; you are being selfish and taking an average payscale that will undermine and limit the careers of pilots at airlines that strive for higher and don't want to accept "average", because to be honest, "average" at a regional sucks nut.
Also, to the RP guys that compare their pay to the E190's, maybe the reason that the pay is so low on that aircraft is that they have to now compete against you and your payscales. Again, I have nothing against the RP guys, but hearing that all you want is an average contract boils my blood. Trust me, I work under an "industry leading contract", and I can think of a multitude of contract improvements that could be made, first of all being first officer and captain payscales. I'm not saying reach for the stars, but industry leading would include improved payscales for FO's (in the 40-50 dollar range), slight increases in capt pay, trip rig, higher min day, 14hr max duty day, and 100% DH pay. Getting a couple of these, or at least even focusing on the FO pay and some trip rig issues would go a long way, and I would then call your contract "industry leading".
Morgan, I have nothing against you personally, and if RP walks I will walk with them, but just accepting an average contract makes you look more like Mesa, and lets all face facts, Mesa sux.
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