Does your contract protect you for 30 in 7 and 8 hour limits?

[Beetle007]

That is hands down the funniest thing ever posted on FI...Spirit management honoring the contract.

Airlines will honor contracts only to the extent it is enforced by an arbitrator

Spirit ALPA won the 4 day off arbitration
Spirit ALPA won the 401K arbitration
Spirit ALPA won the training hotel arbitration
Spirit ALPA won the Domestic Flight time limits also being applied to international flight times arbitration

Spirit can get out of grey language for a period of 2 to 4 months. Then they are stuck with the decision of the arbitrator.

 

[Mike man]

Airlines will honor contracts only to the extent it is enforced by an arbitrator

Spirit ALPA won the 4 day off arbitration
Spirit ALPA won the 401K arbitration
Spirit ALPA won the training hotel arbitration
Spirit ALPA won the Domestic Flight time limits also being applied to international flight times arbitration

Spirit can get out of grey language for a period of 2 to 4 months. Then they are stuck with the decision of the arbitrator.

Spirit will only honor a CBA to the extent that an arbitrator orders them to...other airlines make an agreement and stick to it. Most airline management does not actively hunt out gray language in their CBA's to exploit and pillage their pilot groups...once they make an agreement they stick to it like men and not like the snakes in Miramar.

The new transition conflict resolution has no gray language, the new contract even has examples in picture format (Homer Simpson can understand that) there is no possible way to not understand or misinterpret it but Spirit management chooses not to follow the contract they agreed to just a few short weeks ago...in fact they even honored the new transition conflict for about 24 hours until they sent an email to the effected pilots notifying them they are back on their trips, the company is changing the transition rules and to contact ALPA.

Spirit Pilot Group lost 4 days off for 6 months...and got nothing in return
Spirit Pilot Group lost money and control of out 401(k)'s for weeks...and got nothing in return
Spirit Pilot Group lost per diem and had to pay out of pocket for hotels for several months...and only got what they had in receipts
Spirit Pilot Group was forced to endure months of 32-in-7 international flying for several months...and got nothing in return

I do digress, we did get one thing, an arbitrator telling management to follow the contract.

76% of Spirit pilots were wrong, did you really and honestly believe they would stick to the new CBA?

Why is it that ZERO of the pilots I have flown with since June voted es for the new CBA...it just does not add up, how can that be?

Why hasn't ALPA provided us with a paper copy of the new CBA? Because it is not worth the paper it is printed on.

Don't forget Spirit ALPA gave up 150% overtime for nothing and more than doubled our health insurance for pay parody in 2015 with slightly less than 2010 JetBlue rates...thanks SPA ALPA, you suck!

 

[Draginass]

Wasn't ALPA and the Deltoids pushing for a 9 hour fly day???

 

[dispatchguy]

Didnt JBU try and get an exemption a few years back to where they could to a transcontinental turn, like a JFK-LGB-JFK turn?

How would that go with these new "rules"