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Does UA have a PBS?
Do the pilots like/hate it?
Is it easy to use/hard to use?
How different is using it versus the old preconstructed lines method?
Any UA guys/gals care to share?
Are your absences (sim checks, vacation, jury duty, mil leave) loaded in before or after your monthly bid award?
Thanks, but it was a multiple choice question. Are absences loaded 1) before, or 2) after, monthly award? Makes a huge difference. If loaded before, the line gets built around the flying with less days off, work on days off, essentially. If loaded after, absences get dropped in on top of flying, giving you more days off.
Thanks. UAL must have taken it from CAL's playbook. Another question, CAL gets paid 2.5hrs/day for sim events, gets 1 hr pay for doing ground training at home, gets 2 hours for ground training in the classroom. IOW, they work a lot for free. How does UAL compare?Kind of a common sense answer, being how they treat us these days.
Thanks. UAL must have taken it from CAL's playbook. Another question, CAL gets paid 2.5hrs/day for sim events, gets 1 hr pay for doing ground training at home, gets 2 hours for ground training in the classroom. IOW, they work a lot for free. How does UAL compare?
Wow. Hope CAL can keep UAL's soft time pay like that. CAL's two day annual sim event plus one day of travel (3 days of work) pays less than 8 hours total. Then there are eight hours of CBT at home annually that pay 2 hours total. Then there's middle seat DH abuse, no IRO captains, and on and on.I forget what we get paid for training if you're in class all month like during a transition or upgrade class. When I went to do a landings class a few weeks ago, I got paid 10 hours. The landings class was fly to DEN, do a sim, go to hotel, then fly home whenever I wanted the next day.
We don't get paid for doing training at home, but then again we aren't required to do training at home.
Wow. Hope CAL can keep UAL's soft time pay like that. CAL's two day annual sim event plus one day of travel (3 days of work) pays less than 8 hours total. Then there are eight hours of CBT at home annually that pay 2 hours total. Then there's middle seat DH abuse, no IRO captains, and on and on.
Notice UAL's contract pays 5 hours for lineholder reserve day, CAL pays 4. UAL pays 2 hours for a reserve callout that gets cancelled. CAL not only pays zero, but they can call you out, you commute to the airport, checkin, and they can cancel you at any time to send you back home on reserve with zero pay.
CAL has PBS and it is good for top 20% or so, and mixed results for the rest.training day, like a vac day at UAL pays 2.8. Not sure how landings class works cuz I'm not that senior. Does CAL bid using PBS? How do you guys like yours?
I'm sure that there are plenty of things that suck about our contract compared to yours as well. We had some pretty crappy stuff that we "agreed" to (for lack of a better term) when we had the barrel of the bankruptcy judge's gun pressed to our head.
As an international guy now, I was really surprised to see the provisions you get on your widebodies for rest. We get bunks and 2 business class seats on the bunked airplanes. On the non-bunked airplanes we get a first class seat with a heavy curtain that goes around the seat to block out light and noise. I think at least your rest will get a lot better when/if we merge!
Good God I hope we keep your long-haul rest requirements. Lets keep it civil and work together to get a deal done on a joint contract before they get the merger done.