Does anyone know what the UAL min reqs will be?

[Crucianpilot]

ahhhh, the 'ol, "The only reason I didn't get hired was because a lesser qualified minority was hired" excuse. Have fun living your life rationalizing why you continually fail. It IS the american way.

Agreed, this argument really gets old after a while.

 

[whymeworry?]

Agreed, this argument really gets old after a while.

And yet tragically it's true. If we are to truly tear down the walls of inequality, there would be no hiring quotas for any group. Everyone would apply from the same pile of resumes.

Back to the OPs questions, save yourself the frustration and try for HA, AL, and DL before UA. You'll be happier throughout your career.

 

[Crucianpilot]

And yet tragically it's true. If we are to truly tear down the walls of inequality, there would be no hiring quotas for any group. Everyone would apply from the same pile of resumes.

Back to the OPs questions, save yourself the frustration and try for HA, AL, and DL before UA. You'll be happier throughout your career.

Yeah, its true. The scores of minority and woman pilots I routinely see in crewrooms and online is overwhelming. There taking over all the airlines, insert sarcasm. GMAB!

PS. I happen to be one.

 

[Abernathy]

I heard it was going to be 350hrs and a Commercial License with instrument rating for civilian trained white males who wear glasses and have so-so college grades because they have been discriminated against for so long..

You're right. Being a white male in America (or anywhere else in the world for that matter) is soooooo hard..

Reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg48ZZ2wYfM

 

[lookin4better]

You're right. Being a white male in America (or anywhere else in the world for that matter) is soooooo hard..

Reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg48ZZ2wYfM

Haha totally true!

The whining (unjustified) by those that think only minorities are being hired can just ask the composition of most new hire classes at a major airline.

All white guys with one or two women or minorities.

Another phantom conspiracy from the usual whack jobs!

 

[Turtle21]

A friend of mine with nearly 6000 hours with many years of 121 Jet PIC was told he didn't meet the mins.

Yeah, but he looks like Lance Armstrong.

 

[bluechunks]

Keep hearing of upcoming UAL hiring but nothing of mins... Any rumors?

Here's the official word:

https://www.airlineapps.com/Intro/United/

 

[densoo]

Here's the official word:

https://www.airlineapps.com/Intro/United/

No PIC time. That will open it up a lot.

 

[user912]

quit b1tchin' and stick it to the Man!

One of the purposes of having such 'low' mins is to allow military guys, especially fighter and trainer guys where 1,500 hours is about what they'll leave with after their 10-year hitch.

Here we go: Military vs. Civilian

If you are going to start the ridiculous Military vs. civil debate you should consider this.......
Back in the 90's Delta went through a rash of accidents and incidents far greater than any other airline. They had numerous incidents of landing on the wrong airport, a L1011 .....

It was Delta then, FedEx now..

I heard it was going to be 350hrs and a Commercial License with instrument rating for civilian trained white males who wear glasses and have so-so college grades because they have been discriminated against for so long

Don't forget pilots who were too tall or too short or who whistled through their nostrils. They need their shot at the majors.

I think it's high time for a high time minority pilot with a clean record to feel the pain. What goes around should come around.

Fat chance that's going to happen. What a sadistic fantasy.

Military vs. Civilian, what does it matter? I liked the post that said, once you're in, it doesn't matter where you came from. And who says minorities can't fly? Instead of dumb arguments about who's got the best background, and who got shafted when someone "less qualified" gets hired; ask yourselves who benefits from this discord among pilots? It's the MAN! He can't stand pilots who get along and aren't willing to stab each other in the back. They'll never work for food stamps.

That's a fact!

 

[dojetdriver]

No PIC time. That will open it up a lot.

Just like UAL of old, CAL of old, DAL, AA, and just about ANY other legacy that didn't previously/doesn't require TPIC.

 

[user912]

Just like UAL of old, CAL of old, DAL, AA, and just about ANY other legacy that didn't previously/doesn't require TPIC.

Legacy carriers, where progression can be slow, can afford to take on people without PIC time, or jet time. Heck, they can even take people directly from the military who can't talk on the radio and who would get lost at ORD.

It's those shaky startups that pay crap (except in the 1st year) and probably can't offer a career that require (and need) PIC, time in type etc.

Legacies may say they are hiring captains. Well, not necessarily.

 

[user912]

Look, the military takes people with NO EXPERIENCE as do some of the largest airlines in the world.

It's all about what they want. The inexperienced can be conditioned and molded. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks and no chief pilot wants to hire his replacement (unless he's planning to retire real soon)

 

[eaglesview]

No PIC time. That will open it up a lot.

That won't open up a thing. Min requirements have nothing to do with what they will be looking for.

 

[dojetdriver]

Legacy carriers, where progression can be slow, can afford to take on people without PIC time, or jet time. Heck, they can even take people directly from the military who can't talk on the radio and who would get lost at ORD.

It's those shaky startups that pay crap (except in the 1st year) and probably can't offer a career that require (and need) PIC, time in type etc.

Legacies may say they are hiring captains. Well, not necessarily.

Duh dude....

 

[xjhawk]

I am not sure why my post is not here but I must say for those of you who think this argument is getting old-I see your positions at the airlines really makes this a non issue for you. But for those of us at regional airlines who are trying to get out and to a major-this is a huge factor. At this point, because my regional I am working for is terrible-I will go anywhere even if its just a short stop on my way to a major. That being said, its VERY frustrating to see first officers at the regionals getting hired with little or no PIC at places I have applied. One would think serving 14 years in the Military, having a college degree, a couple thousand hours of PIC would allow me to leave to places that have mins a lot lower than my qualifications but............ Try to understand someones frustration and why they are frustrated at a situation before saying "the argument gets old". Two wrongs dont make a right. That being said, I have a few friends who plan to take advantage of this and are not afraid to say it. They are great pilots and highly qualified and I wish them all the luck-but in the case of shear percentages of groups who are applying and how many in that group who will get hired-its just unfair. As I said-two wrongs do not make a right.