Does a profit at NJA= Better QOL and a raise at Flex?

[el raton]

Ever since, NJA has settled their contract , Flex managment has been telling us how much money NJA has been loosing. Now that NJA is showing a profit, I am waiting to hear Flex's spin and explain to us why we can't make as much and get as much time off as C Shares and NJA. I'm updating my resume.

 

[Cautious Belly]

Make sure you run that resume through the spell-checker. It's "losing", not "loosing".

 

[hammer2]

Flex doesn't have to explain anything to you. Good luck on your job search.

 

[RNObased]

The profit is or isn't there, depending on who you believe. AIN says there is a profit, the company memo says don't believe the hype we have a long way to go. I think the truth is somewhere in between, that NJA is getting there, but time will tell.

Now as for Flex finding some money to pay the pilots more.... Don't hold your breath...

 

[gunfyter]

I thought FLEX gave pay raises this month?

 

[Heavy Set]

Don't expect things to change much at Flex until a union is brought in... Sure, it's not the remedy for every problem (and unions sure ain't perfect), but it can help to accelerate change.

 

[twincessna]

Flex did give out raises this month, but now there is no guarentee of days paid like there used to be. Before we were paid 16 days if we bid 16 or 17 but got less days due to PBS. Now we may bid those but we only get paid the days PBS gives us. So now, if I bid 17 days for the money and PBS gives me 12, I only get paid that 12 days. We were not told of this during the December meetings.

 

[Heavy Set]

Flex did give out raises this month, but now there is no guarentee of days paid like there used to be. Before we were paid 16 days if we bid 16 or 17 but got less days due to PBS. Now we may bid those but we only get paid the days PBS gives us. So now, if I bid 17 days for the money and PBS gives me 12, I only get paid that 12 days. We were not told of this during the December meetings.

Bad deal... Have you raised this concern with managment (I presume so)? What response did they give?

 

[RNObased]

Flex did give out raises this month, but now there is no guarentee of days paid like there used to be. Before we were paid 16 days if we bid 16 or 17 but got less days due to PBS. Now we may bid those but we only get paid the days PBS gives us. So now, if I bid 17 days for the money and PBS gives me 12, I only get paid that 12 days. We were not told of this during the December meetings.

Sound a bit like a shell game...

 

[brokeflyer]

Id rather be a CFI then be at anyplace but netjets.......I feel sorry for you guys....we got room here if ya wanna come over and live a normal life

 

[hammer2]

Id rather be a CFI then be at anyplace but netjets.......I feel sorry for you guys....we got room here if ya wanna come over and live a normal life

Some people will gripe about anything, but Flex isn't a bad place to work. I have a feeling that most (not all) of the people who complain about Flex on this board havn't been at Flex very long. They just like to make noise, and bad mouth Flex, yet they do nothing about it. If things were as bad as they say, we would have had a mass exodus to NJA, but it never happened. The fact is NJA does have more than us, but not by much, and soon things will level out. It could be worse you could be at Flops.

 

[brokeflyer]

dont get the wrong idea, im not bashin the company or the people who work there. your right though, if it makes you happy then go for it. I'd love to go back to flying a Lear, but, I like the QOL at netjets. So I have to give and take.

It would be nice if we(as pilots) all got along, then WE could really help our less fortunate co-workers that are not so lucky working at crappy operators.

 

[hammer2]

Ditto

 

[GCAP]

dont get the wrong idea, im not bashin the company or the people who work there. your right though, if it makes you happy then go for it. I'd love to go back to flying a Lear, but, I like the QOL at netjets. So I have to give and take.

It would be nice if we(as pilots) all got along, then WE could really help our less fortunate co-workers that are not so lucky working at crappy operators.

You really need to work on your punctuation and spelling

 

[brokeflyer]

You can't understand what I'm saying?

 

[DO-82 driver]

Broke....I clearly got your point. I guess some people are more interested in "how" you say something as opposed to "what" you are really trying to say.

Like I told my wife...."If you'd stop yelling at me you'd be able to hear what I'm trying to tell you to do!"

 

[Club ORD FO]

Flex did give out raises this month, but now there is no guarentee of days paid like there used to be. Before we were paid 16 days if we bid 16 or 17 but got less days due to PBS. Now we may bid those but we only get paid the days PBS gives us. So now, if I bid 17 days for the money and PBS gives me 12, I only get paid that 12 days. We were not told of this during the December meetings.

uummm...what? how can you get less than 16 days unless you waive down? I think you may be wrong on your thought there. This was discussed on the Flex boards. Check there for clarification...

 

[FalconPilot69]

Minimum Guarantee

I believe the minimum is 15 days. Since they are striving to have an average "yeild" of 15.5 days a month, 15 days in the minimum. As ORDFo stated, this has been discussed on the BB.

 

[Kermit_D_Frog]

uummm...what? how can you get less than 16 days unless you waive down? I think you may be wrong on your thought there. This was discussed on the Flex boards. Check there for clarification...

It's possible and it's happening. You might want to do a little research before answering next time. During training and vacation months, if PBS can't give the minimum days, it will simply give you less AND you get PAID less! The only remedy is to waive work rules. As in: 7 on 2 off, 4 on 1 off 4 on, and so on. And you are right. It WAS discussed on the company board. What were you reading?

 

[Club ORD FO]

It's possible and it's happening. You might want to do a little research before answering next time. During training and vacation months, if PBS can't give the minimum days, it will simply give you less AND you get PAID less! The only remedy is to waive work rules. As in: 7 on 2 off, 4 on 1 off 4 on, and so on. And you are right. It WAS discussed on the company board. What were you reading?

first off, in your first post you didn't mention that your little complaint counted only during training and vacation months. So now what you said is true. However, on BB is tells us to call if you get less than the minumum days. So yeah, a call should not be necessary but they will fix the problem if you just ask.

 

[Kermit_D_Frog]

first off, in your first post you didn't mention that your little complaint counted only during training and vacation months. So now what you said is true. However, on BB is tells us to call if you get less than the minumum days. So yeah, a call should not be necessary but they will fix the problem if you just ask.

My first post? My little complaint? Your first step should be to enroll in 5th grade and learn how to read. Not just the words, but what they mean. This was my first post in the thread, sport. And if you don't think this will affect you, come back in a year and tell me how it worked out for you.

How long have you been here anyway?