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Do you fly left and right seat at NetJets

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CapnVegetto said:
Can you fly it from the right? Sure. But it's a royal farking pain in the arse.

I guess I must be pretty special, then....because I never found flying anything from the right seat difficult. Transfer of controls(meaning steering below 80kias) must be extremely difficult since none of the airlines seem to be able to get it right and keep running airplanes off the runway during such transfers....oh, wait...they don't...that's right. So, are you saying that it is more difficult for corporate, fractional, and 135 operators to transfer controls? I didn't think so...
 
Gpilot800 said:
tgr -
Diesel has a good point. For some of the aircraft that have a tiller for instance, most of us would prefer not to fly from the right seat. at all..but it's all up to the PIC. If you do fly from the right in an aircraft with a tiller, there is typically a "hand-off" at 80 kts (approx) from the left seat driving with tiller, to the guy in the right taking over at 80 (for rudder effectiveness).

Some like it some don't...
I used to be in the CE650, and didn't like the hand-off, but it's a bit easier in the 800XP.

Why would you have your hand on the tiller during takeoff. That's a real fine way to get yourself into a bad situation during slippery runways. From my experiance a tiller should only be used when you are taxiing. Once the power goes up, hands off the tiller and only put your hand on it when you can't turn it without your feet. More than several aircraft have departed the runway due to using the tiller during rollout.
 
Sparse said:
Why would you have your hand on the tiller during takeoff. That's a real fine way to get yourself into a bad situation during slippery runways. From my experiance a tiller should only be used when you are taxiing. Once the power goes up, hands off the tiller and only put your hand on it when you can't turn it without your feet. More than several aircraft have departed the runway due to using the tiller during rollout.

Do that in most corprate jets and you WILL end up departing the runway. Most corprate jets do not have nose wheel steering conected to the rudder pedals and rudder effectiveness doesn't come alive until 60 - 80 knots. Thus, the tiller is used up to approximately 80 knots (or more in strong crosswinds).
 
FracCapt said:
I guess I must be pretty special, then....because I never found flying anything from the right seat difficult. Transfer of controls(meaning steering below 80kias) must be extremely difficult since none of the airlines seem to be able to get it right and keep running airplanes off the runway during such transfers....oh, wait...they don't...that's right. So, are you saying that it is more difficult for corporate, fractional, and 135 operators to transfer controls? I didn't think so...

Airliners have limited nose wheel steering through the rudder pedals and the tiller is not used after the aircraft is lined up on the runnway.

This whole discussion on the transfer of controls at 80kts. is silly. If the flying pilot is in the right seat, he has control of the flight controls and all the left seat pillot has to do is keep the aircraft pointed straight down the runnway until 60 - 80 knots and then release the tiller. Simple as that! It doesn't need to be anymore complicated then that.
 
FracCapt said:
I guess I must be pretty special, then....because I never found flying anything from the right seat difficult. Transfer of controls(meaning steering below 80kias) must be extremely difficult since none of the airlines seem to be able to get it right and keep running airplanes off the runway during such transfers....oh, wait...they don't...that's right. So, are you saying that it is more difficult for corporate, fractional, and 135 operators to transfer controls? I didn't think so...

Dude, what the hell is the matter with you? I thought to be a pilot that you had to READ, SPEAK, AND UNDERSTAND ENGLISH. Where did I say it was difficult?

It's a pain in the a$$. Just like mowing your yard, or waiting for hot water in the shower, or opening 8 little ketchup packets to get enough dam-n ketchup to dip your fries in, or rewinding VHS tapes, or......you get the point. It's easier to fly from the left seat. The planes are designed to be flown from the left. It's less of a pain in the a$$.

Read the post chucklehead.
 

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