Do any Regionals let you work a 2nd job?

[cougar6903]

Can you part time CFI while working for any of the regional airlines? I'm talking just flight with a old student for a BFR every now and then.

 

[JumpCaptain]

Don't ask, don't tell. If you're not logging the time, it won't matter.

 

[SEVEN]

Yes you can flight instruct. What you can't do is operate using your commercial privleges to fly 121 or even 135 while working for a 121 carrier. I don't know any airlines that give the ok to fly commercial on the side.

 

[SEVEN]

Don't ask, don't tell. If you're not logging the time, it won't matter.

He's right though. Don't ask don't tell. If you are working on the side just don't go and annouce it so that it eventually will get back to the chief pilot. Keep it on the low down....no doubt. Yea...and don't log it either.

 

[yasir1212]

Yes you can flight instruct. What you can't do is operate using your commercial privleges to fly 121 or even 135 while working for a 121 carrier. I don't know any airlines that give the ok to fly commercial on the side.

You are exercising your commercial privilages when you flight instruct and the airlines will not allow you to flight instruct as the time is counted towards your limit of 1000 flight hours per year. If you don't get paid and/or don't log the time, that's a different story. There's no problem with part 91 flying.

 

[blzr]

Not many regionals will give you much time to flight instruct anyway, especially if you commute.

 

[General Lee]

Back when I was at a "commuter" (which is what it was called back in the early 90's--IFLY4FOOD) I had a second job, as a Chippendale. I was called "Elephant Tri-pod." The old ladies loved me. I often was tipped 50 cents at a time!!! Although, I didn't like where they placed the quarters......It was NOT a slot machine!


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Peter Brady]

Can you part time CFI while working for any of the regional airlines? I'm talking just flight with a old student for a BFR every now and then.

I think the correct way to ask this question might be: "Can you fly for a regional as a side job as a way of getting a few hundred dollars extra a month." Chances are, you'll be making more as a CFI.

 

[wings421]

Have an accident, incident, or go under a FAA investigation while you are working "on the side" and you'll be up the ol' creek. Better just to get a side job at Best Buy.

 

[cougar6903]

Yes you can flight instruct. What you can't do is operate using your commercial privleges to fly 121 or even 135 while working for a 121 carrier. I don't know any airlines that give the ok to fly commercial on the side.

Fedex.

 

[LearLove]

Can you part time CFI while working for any of the regional airlines? I'm talking just flight with a old student for a BFR every now and then.

If your talking about a few hours here and there then i wouldn't worry or say anything about it. have fun. What they don't know won't hurt them, maybe you but not them.

 

[blzr]

Fedex.

I know a FedEx captain that is a D.E. He did my ATP and yes, he got paid. Tht's different than going out and flying charter or something. If you are logging 80+ hours a month with a regional, why would you want to fly on you off day and not be able to (legally) log it and not get paid for it?

Just stay t home and do laundry and give the wife a little "pickle tickle"

 

[Dufus1]

The "regional" I fly for says "flight instruction is not considered commercial flying". I can instruct all day long on my days off and none of the time counts towards my 1000.

 

[blzr]

Aside from that... do you need a commercial ticket to be a CFI?

 

[blueridge71]

I'd check with your friendly neighborhood FSDO since they will be the one violating you (and sending you a letter of investigation too) if you get in trouble somehow. I know that my airline considers instructing to be commercial flying.

I wouldn't try to do it on the sly, because even if you don't log the time in your log book, there will be a paper trail. Your name will be in your student's logbook, his checkride application, and all kinds of FBO paperwork.

 

[Midge]

Can you part time CFI while working for any of the regional airlines? I'm talking just flight with a old student for a BFR every now and then.

Most companies' FOM's state that you can "with special permission," from the CP. However, I would be inclined to tell anyone about it, unless its part 135 and might conflict with 30 in seven. The only reason you might want to mention it is if there is some sort of incident. Just my .02 worth!

 

[FN FAL]

Do any Regionals let you work a 2nd job?

Professional Pilots don't need a second job.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Professional Pilots don't need a second job.

So NW pilots aren't professional?
Based on that T.A. they need a second...heck maybe even a third job.

 

[Workin'Stiff]

Where I'm at, you ARE allowed to flight instruct all you want. Just can't work any other 121 or 135 gigs. You can log it, get paid for it, blah blah blah... No special permission from the CP is required. But someone else already said it... If you're flying 80 hours a month, I really won't want to see another airplane on my day off... Especially if I'm working when I'm in it... Personal preference though...

 

[UCF Aviator]

You are exercising your commercial privilages when you flight instruct and the airlines will not allow you to flight instruct as the time is counted towards your limit of 1000 flight hours per year. If you don't get paid and/or don't log the time, that's a different story. There's no problem with part 91 flying.

Give me a break, the faa doesn't care if you are flying instructing and flying for a regional, who cares if your company doesn't allow it, just don't tell anyone. I just wouldn't put it in the logbook. Its more important that you pay the bills than what your companie's rules are about flight instructing. I think some of you guys are a little to worried about the FAA.

 

[FN FAL]

So NW pilots aren't professional?
Based on that T.A. they need a second...heck maybe even a third job.

Want and need are two different things.

I drive a lowly Caravan for a living and I don't need a second job. I'm sure If wanted to live in the same MSP neighborhood as those guys, I'd probrobably want to pay my bills with a second job I don't need.

 

[dogismycopilot]

Commutair allowed flight instruction/other commercial flying on the side with prior permission and a close watch on exceeding any duty limits. That may have changed, but I think that is still policy.

 

[cwebster2]

You are exercising your commercial privilages when you flight instruct

I've heard this one argued both ways. Getting paid to flight instruct is excersizing the privledges of your flight instructor certificate. If you were excersizing your commercial ticket you would need a 2nd class medical to instruct, which is not the case. You dont even need a medical -if you dont need to act as PIC- to instruct and get paid for it.

 

[gringo]

I´d get in touch with YOUR local FSDO, because even this issue is viewed differently from FSDO to FSDO- I researched this last year, and I called up the Cininasty FSDO, and they said that flight instruction DOES NOT constitute commercial flying, and then I called my FSDO back in Chicago, and they said that it does. I think the Atlanta FSDO had the same opinion as the Cinci FSDO, however.

But it basically boiled down to the above post- although you need a Commercial certificate to hold a CFI, you´re not excercising the right of a commercial pilot while you´re CFI´ing.

 

[blzr]

But it basically boiled down to the above post- although you need a Commercial certificate to hold a CFI, you´re not excercising the right of a commercial pilot while you´re CFI´ing.

Really? Only if you are not doing it for money. Why would anyone want to do stalls around a point for free?

Otherise, why would you even need a commercial ticket to flight instruct? I guess that is an issue for another board.

 

[Blucher]

Why would you want to instruct on your days off? If you just need the cash (and you will if you're working at a regional), you'd be far better off just getting a job tending bar somewhere.

-Blucher

 

[Jetpipeovht]

Have an accident, incident, or go under a FAA investigation while you are working "on the side" and you'll be up the ol' creek. Better just to get a side job at Best Buy.

Yep. You as a CFI still document your name and number when you sign people off don't you? If you screw the pooch you are really up sh#t creek if you don't report it.

 

[blueridge71]

Yep. You as a CFI still document your name and number when you sign people off don't you? If you screw the pooch you are really up sh#t creek if you don't report it.

That is a good point. I know of at least one airline pilot who had to stop flying (at least temporarily) because he clipped a TFR while flying GA on his day off.