Dixie Chicks plane mishap (they're OK)

[VivaZapata]

Let me make this simple for you. As far as the USA ( that is United States of America), there is NO prohibitted criticism, domestic or abroad.

[/QUOTE]Some people just don't get it... some people just never will....[/QUOTE]

Yep, you said it, I agree. "SOME" continue to be satisfied to live like cattle. hmm

Proud to be an American, aren't ya?

Pride is insidious to patriotism. You may buy into the idea of blind patriotism. I do not.

 

[flywithastick]

Yep, you said it, I agree. "SOME" continue to be satisfied to live like cattle. hmm

and some live their lives obsessed with what other (people and countries) think about them.

Pride is indsidious to patriotism. You may buy into the idea of blind patriotism. I do not

I'm assuming this was a typo and meant "insidious". If this is the case, you are wrong. Pride does not always mean blind or mindless obedience. Sometimes, maybe. Always, absolutley not.

 

[VivaZapata]

If this is the case, you are wrong. Pride does not always mean blind or mindless obedience. Sometimes, maybe. Always, absolutley not.

Sure, it does not always mean unconditional obediance, this is merely one of the many symptoms of pride. This emotion is currently played by spinmeisters to subjugate the masses into going along with the moronic 'Patriot Act' or the 'War on Terrorism' etc.. The bumper sticker "Power of Pride" is only correct in the sense that it can be used as a tool for manipulation.

Pride only has a place (a small one (sometimes)) in individual lives, not in nationalism.

 

[TonyC]

Cattle? ROFL

Let me make this simple for you. As far as the USA ( that is United States of America),...

I'm so glad you cleared that up for us. I was thinking perhaps USA was a remote district of southern Taiwan.

... there is NO prohibitted (sic) criticism, domestic or abroad.

You're so close to the truth it's scary. The US prohibits nothing abroad, because US law applies only to the US and its territories. Last time I checked, England ain't one of 'em!

You've chosen to ignore my questions. What rights do you have while you're in England? Where do those rights come from?

I also noticed you didn't bother to quibble with my thoughts about you and Clinton and Fonda. Do they qualify in your mind as "Patriots?"

 

[VivaZapata]

You've chosen to ignore my questions. What rights do you have while you're in England? Where do those rights come from?

Yes, I did ignore your questions. Why you ask? Because I never said that a citizen of the US had any "rights" in England. In other words, I didn't answer your questions because they are inapplicable.

I also noticed you didn't bother to quibble with my thoughts about you and Clinton and Fonda. Do they qualify in your mind as "Patriots?"

Again, inapplicable. However, to entertain you, yes Clinton's avoiding the draft was patriotic. He stood for what he believed and expressed his opinion.

I'm so glad you cleared that up for us. I was thinking perhaps USA was a remote district of southern Taiwan.

.."for us"? No. I was clearing it up for you.

The US prohibits nothing abroad, because US law applies only to the US and its territories.

Exactly my point. Initially, you suggested that it ought to be otherwise. If the Dixie Chicks were actually "aiding and abetting the enemy" (as you suggested), that would be a legal violation. However, since this suggestion is utterly preposterous, they didn't break any laws.

In so far as the US is concerned, free speech is not conditional on your location...... nor should it be.

I cannot make it any more simple for you. I'm finished with this thread.

Toodles

 

[Typhoon1244]

Um...if I may, it was the Dixie Chicks, f'Chris'sake. As far as I know, nothing they said caused the economy to slump, no soldiers died, and the Earth's orbit is still steady.

Tim Robbins, Natalie Mains, Martin Sheen, Sean Penn...does anybody really think they're having a profound effect on world politics?

If you guys had ignored the whole Dixie Chicks thing--instead of burning records and making a big deal about it on T.V.--nobody'd have noticed. Just don't buy any more albums and be done with it.