Displaced to 700

[Tarzan]

Looks like ASA has a bunch of junior guys being displaced to the 700. Grrrrrrr!

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Right after they just displaced a bunch of guys off of it. Perhaps replacing 2nd or 3rd year paid people with 1st year paid people??? Unbelievable.

 

[sweptback]

Right after they just displaced a bunch of guys off of it. Perhaps replacing 2nd or 3rd year paid people with 1st year paid people??? Unbelievable.

And the plan is still to transfer airplanes to SkyWest.

So let me get this straight. We train people for the 700, then displace them, realize we displaced too many combined with attrition so we displace guys from the 200 to the 700. Then, as airplanes are transferred to SkyWest, we displace those guys back to the 200?

That's 4 training cycles I count... and that doesn't even account for the newhires that we're going to need to replace the guys on the 200.

If any of you guys are wondering why ASA pilots hate the company so much, that's the reason.

 

[Noise]

I am one of the unlucky ones who got displaced. This SUCKS. Why in the hell did they displace people off of the 700 to the 200, just to displace us from the 200 to the 700?? I mean you have got to be kidding me!

 

[Airspur]

That's 4 training cycles I count... and that doesn't even account for the newhires that we're going to need to replace the guys on the 200.
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I don't get it. Why would there be training cycles? We can fly the 700 and the 200 in the same day.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

To be displaced from the CR2 to the CR7 is really not that big of a training issue. It's only differences w/ ~2 sims. For those being bump enjoy the extra cash while it lasts. If you are sent back to the CR2, within one year from your PC no extra sims would be required just a line check.

 

[Grassstrippilot]

To be displaced from the CR2 to the CR7 is really not that big of a training issue. It's only differences w/ ~2 sims. For those being bump enjoy the extra cash while it lasts. If you are sent back to the CR2, within one year from your PC no extra sims would be required just a line check.

A little extra cash and a better airplane. I'd guess the real kick in the groin would be if there is a difference in the type of schedule between the two. On the bright side, maybe the training dept. will be so back logged that by the time I'm off of OJI that it will take a month to get me a training slot! Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

 

[av8tor4239]

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[av8tor4239]

I have been on the ATR for 5 years, and I have been bypassed for the 200 and the 700 for 3 years.. I WANT TO GO TO THE 700.. I BID THE 700.. AND THEY WILL NOT LET ME GO.. NO SEAT FREEZE NO REASON.. THEY JUST WONT LET ME OFF THE ATR.

I really thought that this final award would have my name on it after 3 years of being bypassed and paid crj 700 rates to fly the ATR.

You have been here a year or less and you are getting the seat and equipment I want and have bid for for the last 3 years.. WHAT THE ^%$%# HAPPENED TO SENORITY?

 

[ohplease!]

I have been on the ATR for 5 years, and I have been bypassed for the 200 and the 700 for 3 years.. I WANT TO GO TO THE 700.. I BID THE 700.. AND THEY WILL NOT LET ME GO.. NO SEAT FREEZE NO REASON.. THEY JUST WONT LET ME OFF THE ATR.

I really thought that this final award would have my name on it after 3 years of being bypassed and paid crj 700 rates to fly the ATR.

You have been here a year or less and you are getting the seat and equipment I want and have bid for for the last 3 years.. WHAT THE ^%$%# HAPPENED TO SENORITY?

I guess its all because of your wonderful personality.

 

[USCtrojan]

I have been on the ATR for 5 years, and I have been bypassed for the 200 and the 700 for 3 years.. I WANT TO GO TO THE 700.. I BID THE 700.. AND THEY WILL NOT LET ME GO.. NO SEAT FREEZE NO REASON.. THEY JUST WONT LET ME OFF THE ATR.

I really thought that this final award would have my name on it after 3 years of being bypassed and paid crj 700 rates to fly the ATR.

You have been here a year or less and you are getting the seat and equipment I want and have bid for for the last 3 years.. WHAT THE ^%$%# HAPPENED TO SENORITY?

That sucks, sorry that's happened to you. Come out to LAX for 6 mo and go back. That sounds like the only way they're gonna let you off it.

Trojan

 

[ohplease!]

That sucks, sorry that's happened to you. Come out to LAX for 6 mo and go back. That sounds like the only way they're gonna let you off it.

Trojan

thats a great idea av8trix. go to LAX then come back to ATL and pull gear for me. Now THAT would be fun.

 

[ASAFOE120]

I'm a CA on the ATR getting bumped back to the right seat. I have my bid in for the 700 and 200. So they gave me right seat on the ATR! SUX! Been here over 5 years and they give it to new guys that will be on idefinite reserve!
Oh well

 

[Noise]

I'm a CA on the ATR getting bumped back to the right seat. I have my bid in for the 700 and 200. So they gave me right seat on the ATR! SUX! Been here over 5 years and they give it to new guys that will be on idefinite reserve!
Oh well

Hey man, i hear ya. It is CRAP, i dont know why in the world they didnt go by who has a bid in, from what i hear quite a few people have bid the 700 and didn't get it. I did not have it on my bid sheet, but got it anyways.

 

[Crizz]

What has ALPA done for you lately?

 

[USCtrojan]

What has ALPA done for you lately?

You kill me. You turn this into an anti ALPA rally? We're operating off a contract from 1998. The Company can do all this, it's legal and is abiding the contract. Why don't you become part of the solution rather than remaining part of the problem?

Trojan

 

[gator_hater]

A) reserve on the 200 -> reserve on the 700 who cares...
B) The have not displaced any fo's off of the 700, so displacing capt'sand adding fo's is not completely nuts.

not somthing to lose a lot of sleep over.

 

[jea]

You kill me. You turn this into an anti ALPA rally? We're operating off a contract from 1998. The Company can do all this, it's legal and is abiding the contract. Why don't you become part of the solution rather than remaining part of the problem?

Trojan

precisely... and who helped you get that stellar contract in 98?
the solution is to lose alpa.

 

[Grassstrippilot]

I know I'll be corrected if wrong, but in '98 it was an acceptable contract. But things change, and by industry standards it is far from a decent contract now. This, among many other things, needs to be changed. Alot of guys are getting hosed due to a lack of language preventing it from happening.

 

[USCtrojan]

precisely... and who helped you get that stellar contract in 98?
the solution is to lose alpa.

Do you not have a grip on reality? Things change in the industry over the years. In 1998, it was an industry leading contract. I apologize, you must be a new hire. Most everyone was pretty content for the most part. It was a decent contract, it's now outdated. If you know anything about ASA, then you'd know that a Union is essential. Without one, we would be using park benches at outstations on overnights. Or soliciting passengers for a room on the overnight leg. A Union is what the rank and file make it. It doesn't do Jack $hit if there's no support.

Trojan

 

[E120ASA]

Sorry, we have to have something, the ass wipes at the g o keep hopping that John and George are comming back to save them...

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

precisely... and who helped you get that stellar contract in 98?
the solution is to lose alpa.

A check that would be Lynn Jackson and her little lover boy. She hijacked it then and she's trying to do it again.

 

[www.]

precisely... and who helped you get that stellar contract in 98?
the solution is to lose alpa.

At the time in 1998, before you got out of high school and began flying, it was a "stellar" contract for the times and our size. Eight years later and 100% increase in the pilot group what do you expect.