Displaced Capt. at ASA

[Tarzan]

I don't get my feelings hurt. If I don't like you then you truly are a d*ck. I can tolerate just about anybody for a 4 day trip and if I can't then they're probably one of the guys/girls everyone knows about. Fortunately we have a great group of pilots and the handful of pric*s we have, well I just pity them. I hope your not one of the guys I'll be pushing down the seniority list, if I am then I am sorry. I just need some new overnights and that's the real reason for switching over, that and the couple of extra bucks to offset the loss in salary from the displacement.

I am but that is the game. I have to deal with it or leave. The airplane is nice but the overnights get old quick. Same old places. Trying to get back to the 200 but don't think they will let us bid down. Instead the junior guys get displaced and I stay.

 

[PooPooPants]

I am but that is the game. I have to deal with it or leave. The airplane is nice but the overnights get old quick. Same old places. Trying to get back to the 200 but don't think they will let us bid down. Instead the junior guys get displaced and I stay.

I know the feeling, most of the overnights suck on the 200 as well. Actually, there probably not that bad but there's only so many times I can go to JAN before losing my mind. This is really a no win situation for anyone. I'm sorry for pushing you down the list, but believe me if it was up to me I'd stay exactly where I am now. Hopefully there will be light at the end of the tunnel!

 

[LazyLightnin']

I know the feeling, most of the overnights suck on the 200 as well. Actually, there probably not that bad but there's only so many times I can go to JAN before losing my mind. This is really a no win situation for anyone. I'm sorry for pushing you down the list, but believe me if it was up to me I'd stay exactly where I am now. Hopefully there will be light at the end of the tunnel!

Do what you have to do, and you don't have to apologize. But take the worthless instructor pilot rightseaters with you.

 

[wms]

I am but that is the game. I have to deal with it or leave. The airplane is nice but the overnights get old quick. Same old places. Trying to get back to the 200 but don't think they will let us bid down. Instead the junior guys get displaced and I stay.

I think you can bid down to a vacancy during a displacement, but you can't bump a junior pilot from his seat unless you are actually on the displacement list. However, I haven't actually checked the contract myself so might be wrong. I was considering trying to bid down because I think I might end up on reserve but changed my mind.

 

[Speedtape]

Sure, let me help...since your brothers and sisters will be on the street why would you pick up overtime?

Pilots were picking up trips (overtime is a mischaracterization) long before the contract was signed in 2007. Why shouldn't they now? Someone will have to fly them, otherwise--either by extensions or using reserves.

Average line values were between 83 and 87 hours for years. They will be again. When the economy turns around, growth will increase, and the need for pilots will increase.

 

[altimaklr]

Doesn't ASA have an internal pilot message board for this kind of stuff???

 

[PooPooPants]

Doesn't ASA have an internal pilot message board for this kind of stuff???

yes, you can check us out at www.flightinfo.com

 

[WWEfan]

yes, you can check us out at www.flightinfo.com

I actually LOL'ed at this.

 

[WWEfan]

Pilots were picking up trips (overtime is a mischaracterization) long before the contract was signed in 2007. Why shouldn't they now? Someone will have to fly them, otherwise--either by extensions or using reserves.

Average line values were between 83 and 87 hours for years. They will be again. When the economy turns around, growth will increase, and the need for pilots will increase.

Do what is best for your own family. No shame in that.

 

[Mike man]

...Why shouldn't they now? Someone will have to fly them...

Other places with people on the street and people pick up open time people yell, scream and have a fit...ASA people say you gotta do what is best for you, I've got to get mine.

Seems like an awesome place work...so remember ASA furloughees--someone has to fly your trip, not you though, but someone and probably a displaced CA who has to pick the trip up for overtime because he needs to make his BMW payment.

 

[sunlitpath]

Although it's kind of harsh, I agree. What people fail to understand is that maybe he/she didn't buy a BMW. Maybe after 4 years of FO pay living in a 1 bedroom apt with his wife and two kids in the ghetto, he purchased a modest three bedroom house in a better area for his family that has been sucking it up for the last four years or so, probably longer if he was like me and instructed for two years and FO'd at another regional before ASA. I feel for the FO's that got furloughed and will receive nothing but a lousy unemployment check. But I equally feel for the displaced captains that tried to make better lifestyles for their family's as well and now are not quite exactly sure where the additional funds to cover their "modest" lifestyle will come from.

That's a great point. There really are no winners in all of this, just survivers...

 

[JumpersAway]

Other places with people on the street and people pick up open time people yell, scream and have a fit...ASA people say you gotta do what is best for you, I've got to get mine.

Seems like an awesome place work...so remember ASA furloughees--someone has to fly your trip, not you though, but someone and probably a displaced CA who has to pick the trip up for overtime because he needs to make his BMW payment.

Man, I don't know what airline you work for, but I've never seen a Captain here or an F/O get out of a BMW in our employee parking lot. However, I've seen alot of rampers do this, along with Escalades, Mercedes, and pimped out Lexus'..............................

 

[white knuckle]

Go with the 70. 50 destinations aren't that great and everything is 4 days.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Man, I don't know what airline you work for, but I've never seen a Captain here or an F/O get out of a BMW in our employee parking lot. However, I've seen alot of rampers do this, along with Escalades, Mercedes, and pimped out Lexus'..............................

I know one that has a Porsche

I would go to the 50 and enjoy your time off.

 

[JumpersAway]

I know one that has a Porsche

I would go to the 50 and enjoy your time off.

True, I know the one with a Porsche too- but since he's the ATL CP, I'd say he's relatively secure in his purchase................. : )