Did Delta stop hiring???

[Headfake14]

Just talked to a buddy of mine in ATL. Said he heard big D stopped for a while.


Anyone else hear similar?

 

[whatitdoing?]

Pilots and flight attendants are still being hired. I think the freeze had to do with the GO people.

 

[General Lee]

Just talked to a buddy of mine in ATL. Said he heard big D stopped for a while.


Anyone else hear similar?

Back office people, not pilots or stews. We have 13 new routes from JFK alone starting this Spring, and not enough pilots or stews to crew them. Some new cities from JFK include: Amman, Cairo, Lyon, Malaga, Paris Orly, Edinborough, Dakar, Lagos, Tel Aviv, London Heathrow, Cape Town, and Nairobi. Those are all long haul trips, requiring more staff.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Spooky 2]

Back office people, not pilots or stews. We have 13 new routes from JFK alone starting this Spring, and not enough pilots or stews to crew them. Some new cities from JFK include: Amman, Cairo, Lyon, Malaga, Paris Orly, Edinborough, Dakar, Lagos, Tel Aviv, London Heathrow, Cape Town, and Nairobi. Those are all long haul trips, requiring more staff.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Hey General. Does somebody at Delta just sit back with a blindfold on and throw a dart at the map on the wall to see where your going next? It's really amazing and one has to wonder sometimes about the logic, but then I'm no expert. Kinda reminds me of Braniff just before everything came crashing down.

 

[Headfake14]

okay yea...didn't make sense to me if they did...

thanks

 

[climbhappy]

i keep seeing int'l rpms growing at the likes of delta , nwa and cal. what is so illogical about adding more int'l routes?, To: Mr spooky 2

 

[General Lee]

Hey General. Does somebody at Delta just sit back with a blindfold on and throw a dart at the map on the wall to see where your going next? It's really amazing and one has to wonder sometimes about the logic, but then I'm no expert. Kinda reminds me of Braniff just before everything came crashing down.

Do you see any of those cities that I listed above that might not be profitable from NYC? They all will make more money than domestic routes. The guy that picks these routes, a Glen Hauenstein, once worked for CAL and was highly touted by Gordon Bethune himself, who was asked by Grinstein if he was "worth it." Gordon said "Yes, he is." He has chosen some very good routes for us, and our INTL side is doing very well for us. We have had excess domestic widebodies flying thousands of domestic people around each day, and those same planes have been available to now do INTL. While CAL waits and waits for new 787s that may or may not come in 09, Delta is using planes it already has, and getting MD90s in 2008 (9 of them) plus 737-700s (7 of them in 08) to make up the difference domestically. We are also parking 35 RJs at the same time.

Braniff never really did have a domestic feed at their end, and we do, along with a good balance sheet, and growing INTL presence. We do very well on INTL routes to Europe in the Spring and Summer, and scale back a bit in the Winter, and throw a lot of those planes to South America during their "Summer." It is working so far, and going after foreigners who think the dollar is cheap, and want to travel to the US, versus Americans who want to travel abroad but now can't afford it. That is key.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Spooky 2]

Do you see any of those cities that I listed above that might not be profitable from NYC? They all will make more money than domestic routes. The guy that picks these routes, a Glen Hauenstein, once worked for CAL and was highly touted by Gordon Bethune himself, who was asked by Grinstein if he was "worth it." Gordon said "Yes, he is." He has chosen some very good routes for us, and our INTL side is doing very well for us. We have had excess domestic widebodies flying thousands of domestic people around each day, and those same planes have been available to now do INTL. While CAL waits and waits for new 787s that may or may not come in 09, Delta is using planes it already has, and getting MD90s in 2008 (9 of them) plus 737-700s (7 of them in 08) to make up the difference domestically. We are also parking 35 RJs at the same time.

Braniff never really did have a domestic feed at their end, and we do, along with a good balance sheet, and growing INTL presence. We do very well on INTL routes to Europe in the Spring and Summer, and scale back a bit in the Winter, and throw a lot of those planes to South America during their "Summer." It is working so far, and going after foreigners who think the dollar is cheap, and want to travel to the US, versus Americans who want to travel abroad but now can't afford it. That is key.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Good luck and hope 2008 is a great year.

PS. I'll believe the China MD90's when they show up at the TOC or where ever you get them worked over.

 

[sleepy]

My DAL pilot neighbor says they will hire right up to the furlough.

 

[PHXFLYR]

M wife is an agent with Delta at one of the outstations. She says most of the passengers she checks in are intenational passengers and that the number has increased dramatically the last 3 years from years past. Look's like you guys found the winning formula. Let's just hope management doesn't screw things up by announcing a merger.


PHXFLYR

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Good luck and hope 2008 is a great year.

PS. I'll believe the China MD90's when they show up at the TOC or where ever you get them worked over.

Naww..

I wait until you are in the plane, beacon on, pushing back with passengers....THEN be secure that they are on the property....

Anybody remember our 777 arrivals??

As far as Hauentstein goes.....Grinstein said to Bethune that he can't afford him.....Bethune said that Delta can't afford NOT hiring him.....he carries the rock star status, but it didn't take much to look at the Delta route structure before Bankruptcy and realize that MD-11's and 777's shouldn't be flying ATL-MCO....I think slugging it out over International pays more than fighting with the problem of the industry....overcapacity in the domestic market and no pricing power as a result of the LCC's adding planes......less seats, higher prices.....hell, it worked for the Gas companies.....

 

[michael707767]

My DAL pilot neighbor says they will hire right up to the furlough.

I think you could say that about any airline.

I have met Mr. Hauenstein. Very, very smart guy. As long as he is at Delta and the rest of management knows enough to stay out of his way, I have no worries about our future. Same goes for his number 2, Mr. Cortelyou. Very smart guy. Both of them are very nice. If you get the chance, talk to them. You will be impressed.

PS, I'll believe the -90 rumor when it is sitting on the ramp in Delta colors with two Delta pilots in the cockpit.