Did Avantair???

[Rerouted]

Anyone know if it's true that Avantair pulled all their FO's who don't hold an ATP off line until the FO's go out and pay for an ATP out of their own pockets? I'm hoping this is just a nastry rumor, although nothing would surprise me in this business.

 

[av8trinabarrel]

They have FO's with no ATP? Damn.....

 

[NoJoy]

Anyone know if it's true that Avantair pulled all their FO's who don't hold an ATP off line until the FO's go out and pay for an ATP out of their own pockets? I'm hoping this is just a nastry rumor, although nothing would surprise me in this business.

Interesting. I have not heard of this. Source?

 

[ultrarunner]

If the ATP's were an issue, why not just complete the check at the next PC???

 

[cloud_chaser]

Wow, the mins require an ATP so, how about rumor!

 

[wacoflyr]

I gotta call BS on this one. As an FO who works there, this is the first I've heard of this idea. Completely wrong. Try again.

 

[AftCG182]

Nothin' but a nastry rumor...

Anyone know if it's true that Avantair pulled all their FO's who don't hold an ATP off line until the FO's go out and pay for an ATP out of their own pockets? I'm hoping this is just a nastry rumor, although nothing would surprise me in this business.

Sorry, but we're so busy that all hands are needed on deck. We don't have the luxury of pulling anyone off line at the moment. Business is booming and we're doing all that we can to meet the demand.

On the bright side, it's nice to see Avantair back on the board. Thanks!

 

[glasspilot]

They have FO's with no ATP? Damn.....

Please site any carrier in the world that hasn't hired pilots without their ATP.

 

[gunfyter]

Please site any carrier in the world that hasn't hired pilots without their ATP.

NetJets

 

[AftCG182]

And just like that, this has turned into another NetJets thread! Damn, that didn't last long...

 

[av8trinabarrel]

Please site any carrier in the world that hasn't hired pilots without their ATP.

Not the point. Your operation is about the only one to hire in the last few years, so yes, it is suprising you still have people with no ATP. Maybe your hiring standards are in line with the regionals.

 

[glasspilot]

NetJets has NEVER hired a non-ATP pilot? Really. Going way back to the early days it's NEVER happened? I personally know guys there who were hired without it straight from the right seat of an RJ.

 

[glasspilot]

Not the point. Your operation is about the only one to hire in the last few years, so yes, it is suprising you still have people with no ATP. Maybe your hiring standards are in line with the regionals.

Sure, my guess is all those pilots had it. But that by itself doesn't change the status of a guy hired before that doesn't have an ATP and never upgraded for whatever reason.

 

[gunfyter]

And just like that, this has turned into another NetJets thread! Damn, that didn't last long...

Well, just name another carrier that answers the question!

 

[Rerouted]

As for the source - I heard it from a guy at Avantair who is looking for someplace to get an ATP in a hurry. Supposedly they gave him 2 weeks to get it. Whether he understood what they want or didn't convey the story accurately I don't know...that's why I asked if anyone has heard anything like this. It seemed strange to me since they could easily have remedied this in recurrent. It just doesn't sound right...I agree.

 

[glasspilot]

Might have been a guy who is about to upgrade. Turns out you need an ATP to fly left seat. Currently Avantair is not authorized to give the ATP check ride. They are working on that too.

Gunfyter: you can't just say something that's not true and make it a fact. NetJets has hired commercial only pilots and you know it. Just admit it. You'll feel better.

 

[BoilerUP]

Currently Avantair is not authorized to give the ATP check ride.

I've never flown 135 so I might be wrong, but isn't a 135 PC the same basic ride as an ATP?

 

[gunfyter]

Might have been a guy who is about to upgrade. Turns out you need an ATP to fly left seat. Currently Avantair is not authorized to give the ATP check ride. They are working on that too.

Gunfyter: you can't just say something that's not true and make it a fact. NetJets has hired commercial only pilots and you know it. Just admit it. You'll feel better.

Why would I admit what isn't true? Oh yeah, Netjets has hired commercial pilots as Dispatchers and Flight Managers, and Flight Attendants! Actually some of them have their ATP.

 

[CorpCaptain]

I've never flown 135 so I might be wrong, but isn't a 135 PC the same basic ride as an ATP?

That's affirmative.

 

[Rerouted]

Might have been a guy who is about to upgrade. Turns out you need an ATP to fly left seat. Currently Avantair is not authorized to give the ATP check ride. They are working on that too.

Gunfyter: you can't just say something that's not true and make it a fact. NetJets has hired commercial only pilots and you know it. Just admit it. You'll feel better.

Now that makes sense - no ATP, no left seat. Still it's surprising they have no one to check that box off in house.