Diamond DA-42 Twinstar rental?

[F9 Buff]

$265-290/hr wet.

Yack!!!!!

 

[Lazy8]

$265-290/hr wet.

Plastic planes... you hit a bird and you've got a hull-loss. go figure.

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[Fugawe]

http://www.eaa-fly.com/2.0/en/MainFlugzeuge.html

Naples, FL

285/hr

 

[aldassy]

Plastic planes... you hit a bird and you've got a hull-loss. go figure

The beauty of message boards, spreading misinformation to the masses. I suppose they will explode if hit by lightning as well??
Perhaps the high cost of rental has to do with the capital investment? The hull value on this is much higher than some old beater Duchess, so I suppose insurance would be priced accordingly?

 

[Vik]

I agree that if it gets hit by a bird its not a hull loss, but a lot of mechanics have told me its a PITA to fix composite airframes that are damaged.

 

[aldassy]

It depends on the mechanic and the size of the "A". Cost and downtime are pretty close to sheet metal repair. Composite repair tends to look much better after the fact, in most cases you can't visibly tell there was damage. Rather than replacing ribs and skin all the way back to the spar and root, composite repair is usually limited to the damaged area.
I would find an experienced mechanic to help you out on this. There are some out there. If a mechanic has never done it before, it can be a PITA. I know a guy in WA that has been doing it for a while and is very good. Depends on who you are talking to.

 

[Lazy8]

The beauty of message boards, spreading misinformation to the masses. I suppose they will explode if hit by lightning as well??
Perhaps the high cost of rental has to do with the capital investment? The hull value on this is much higher than some old beater Duchess, so I suppose insurance would be priced accordingly?

The beauty of message boards.. nobody can tell when you're exagerating.

Insurance is higher because they're more suseptible to hull loss. That comes straight from the insurance co.

Brand new seminoles are $215/hour in Colorado.

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[Lazy8]

It depends on the mechanic and the size of the "A". Cost and downtime are pretty close to sheet metal repair. Composite repair tends to look much better after the fact, in most cases you can't visibly tell there was damage. Rather than replacing ribs and skin all the way back to the spar and root, composite repair is usually limited to the damaged area.
I would find an experienced mechanic to help you out on this. There are some out there. If a mechanic has never done it before, it can be a PITA. I know a guy in WA that has been doing it for a while and is very good. Depends on who you are talking to.

Something else I was wondering about are the engines. I read a few months ago that the majority of the DA42's would be sold with IO-360 engines instead of the diesels due to lack of mx support across the country. The diesel's may sip fuel, but the composite airframe + new engine technology + new fuel delivery technology has got to be what's jacking the rent price up.

I hate insurance companies. Charging you extra for what might happen. It's killing the rental market.

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[mzaharis]

I read a few months ago that the majority of the DA42's would be sold with IO-360 engines instead of the diesels due to lack of mx support across the country.

I recently read that Diamond ceased pursuing the IO-360 option (I think it was the Flying article, but I could be wrong). They considered the option, then quit work on it. Anyway, given Thielert's acquisition of Superior Air Parts, they seem to be more commited to building that maintenance network in the US (at least in theory; I haven't tried to maintain one, so I don't know how good it actually is).

EDIT: Flying Magazine, July 2006 -

"Diamond has flown the Twin Star with conventional Lycoming engines to offer an alternative to those who don't want the diesels, but the product is not now in active devlopment."

 

[jdlilfan]

Brand new seminoles are $215/hour in Colorado.

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Wow! Our 04 seminole with only one nav/com (garmin 430) rents for $275 at my airport.

 

[Vik]

Our 1979 PA-44 runs $240/hr block rate. F'n SoCal and $5.25/gal avgas on my field.

 

[tgabster]

The twin star at Van Nuys Flight Center rents for 295$ an hour at the Van Nuys Airport.

 

[Jafar]

For those of us that live out in the sticks, DA42 for $205 an hour at U77.

http://www.dfcpilot.com/rental-rates.php