Democrats and private jets

[Sparse]

The Senate kept the stimulus bill open for vote until 11 PM last night while the White House sent a government jet to pick up an Ohio senator who was attending I believe his mother's wake. So what is good for the gander isn't necessarily good for the goose.

 

[gutshotdraw]

What, politicians are hypocrites? Say it isn't so.....

 

[gutshotdraw]

By the way, I spell hypocrite P-E-L-O-S-I.

 

[deadstick]

I saw that, too. They should have sent a hybrid car. Was the flight one of the earmarks in the bill?

 

[gunfyter]

How about prince Charles going on his Gorebal Warming tour on a private Airbus 319?

 

[rettofly]

By the way, I spell hypocrite P-E-L-O-S-I.

Term limits or bust! This bunch will destroy us if they stay in power.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Sorry bud. Too late......

 

[amaineiac]

What, politicians are hypocrites? Say it isn't so.....

Next he's going to tell us the Easter bunny doesn't exist!

I wonder how those blue collar union guys in ICT that are laid off from the demonized corporate aviation industry will vote next election.

 

[TORCH67]

The C-20(GIII) was just not good enough for Nancy(the mouth) Pelosi. It just couldn't go non-stop from DC to San Fran. Security concerns after 9-11 also made the GIII just not good enough. Now she flies the C-32(757) each week round trip. At the price of approx $60,000 each way, she is costing the US taxpayers $480,000 per month.

I think we should demand that she put up or shut up!

 

[dalegribble]

The President, Vice President and numerous democrats in congress (Senate, and House) and some cabinet members have launched a brutal assault on the corporate jet. Don't they realize they could put millions in this country out of work just because they don't think anyone deserves this luxury?

All the small airports and their surrounding communities that rely on corporations and their jets helping their local business and economy. Very short sighted and ignorant of these politicians.

 

[rettofly]

The goal of Socialism is for everyone but the ruling elite to be equally miserable and dependent on the government.

Let's start now to work on throwing them out of office the next time we go to the polls.

 

[Hamburger]

The C-20(GIII) was just not good enough for Nancy(the mouth) Pelosi. It just couldn't go non-stop from DC to San Fran. Security concerns after 9-11 also made the GIII just not good enough. Now she flies the C-32(757) each week round trip. At the price of approx $60,000 each way, she is costing the US taxpayers $480,000 per month.

I think we should demand that she put up or shut up!

Time to update that spam filter?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp

 

[transpac]

Time to update that spam filter?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp

Although Snopes.com (who put a left-wing spin on everything) says it's a false story, they continue on to confirm it. The cover story that the Sgt at Arms forced the poor congresslady to fly on a bigger airplane makes no sense. She doesn't accept orders from him and would tell him to pound sand if she wanted to save the taxpayers money. Most people would gladly accept a free Glll for travel, especially since she's only the second Speaker in history to be provided a government airplane for personal travel. I guess a fuel stop is a tremendous hardship on the Madam, but most people could learn to live with it.

 

[Hamburger]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/09/pelosi.plane/index.html


http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_nancy_pelosi_order_up_a_200-seat.html

 

[Sparse]

Time to update that spam filter?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp

Maybe this is true but I think United flies a B-777 to SFO without stopping for fuel. She could buy the first class section out cheaper than operating a 757 back and forth.

 

[Captainzero1]

The C-20(GIII) was just not good enough for Nancy(the mouth) Pelosi. It just couldn't go non-stop from DC to San Fran. Security concerns after 9-11 also made the GIII just not good enough. Now she flies the C-32(757) each week round trip. At the price of approx $60,000 each way, she is costing the US taxpayers $480,000 per month.

I think we should demand that she put up or shut up!

Torch, that story has been debunked over and over. I'll save you the trouble, everything that has ever gone wrong in this country has been a democrats fault, satisfied.

 

[skyaddict]

The President, Vice President and numerous democrats in congress (Senate, and House) and some cabinet members have launched a brutal assault on the corporate jet. Don't they realize they could put millions in this country out of work just because they don't think anyone deserves this luxury?

All the small airports and their surrounding communities that rely on corporations and their jets helping their local business and economy. Very short sighted and ignorant of these politicians.

Ditto for the hotel and resort industry which have been pummeled by corporations' last minute cancellations for corporate retreats, training seminars and business meetings, with cascading ripple effects. The whole "cigar smoking CEO fatcats" image has been pushed beyond belief by these hypocrites and now the cost to the wider economy is coming home to roost for a travel industry that is a huge sector in our country. Hopefully the affected industries will at the very least lobby for the politicians to cool it with the rhetoric.

 

[Semore Butts]

So these CEO's are scum for using corporate jets

But it's OK for the politicians to do it?

 

[Semore Butts]

I forgot to add

As I understood it the reason Senator Pelosi had to stop for fuel in the Gulfstream is because her entourage was so large.

 

[TORCH67]

Do a search about snopes and you will find that it is full of lies and half truths slanted to the left. It is a guy and his wife from LA that spew left wing talking points. It doesn't really discredit the story. It just passes the buck for who requested the 757.

 

[slowjet]

The goal of Socialism is for everyone but the ruling elite to be equally miserable and dependent on the government.

Let's start now to work on throwing them out of office the next time we go to the polls.

We have too many mentally lazy people in this country to overthrow the socialist pigs. I just hope people wake up and smell the sheeeit from the Demon-cratic party so we can become America once again.

 

[bluefin]

The C-20(GIII) was just not good enough for Nancy(the mouth) Pelosi. It just couldn't go non-stop from DC to San Fran. Security concerns after 9-11 also made the GIII just not good enough. Now she flies the C-32(757) each week round trip. At the price of approx $60,000 each way, she is costing the US taxpayers $480,000 per month.

I think we should demand that she put up or shut up!

Is this true? I had her in the back of my plane in first class. This was back in October, before the messiah was anointed.

 

[GerryG]

Word I have is it was a Democratic Congresswoman from Ohio, who got the no-Frac provision pulled from the house version of the stimulus package. She told the committee chairman it was going to screw union members in her district.

Democrats bad, Republicans good. Let's see, how does that Theseus jibe with the fact that you probably now owe your very jobs to a flippen Democrat?:laugh:

Also looks like the "we hate unions" croud also has a dept of gratitude. I just love irony...

 

[400pilot]

Word I have is it was a Democratic Congresswoman from Ohio, who got the no-Frac provision pulled from the house version of the stimulus package.

the fact that you probably now owe your very jobs to a flippen Democrat?

That very well may be true. However, consider that this was a democrat authored bill. That provision, if it existed, was put in there by democrats...

 

[GerryG]

After all the atrocities perpetrated on this country by the sh*t-birds in the party of George Bush, that made it through their system of checks and balances, I wouldn't fault the Dems. for a trial balloon/fishing expedition that never put anything on the deck of the boat. Fact is in the end they self corrected. More than I can say for the presumptive plotocrats in the R. party.

You help those that that hate and undermine you, the working people of this country, when you support the conservative party. The sooner you realize that the better for all of us.

 

[400pilot]

I wouldn't fault the Dems. for a trial balloon/fishing expedition that never put anything on the deck of the boat. Fact is in the end they self corrected

Of course you don't fault them...Dems can do no wrong. I would be willing to bet that if this was a Republican bill, you would not be so gracious.

You help those that that hate and undermine you, the working people of this country, when you support the conservative party. The sooner you realize that the better for all of us.

With all due respect, that is some of the biggest bull5hit I've read on this board. Statements like your entire last post put you in the same category as Ann Coulter and Michael Savage, except on the left fringe. All emotion and talking points with no logic....and the ironic part is, you don't even see it.

 

[GerryG]

The fact is I was responding to the Dem. bashing on this thread and the irony that it was a Democrat who ultimately saved all of us from the Fractional provision in the stimulus bill. I also pointed out that no matter how misguided it was to have included the provision to begin with, ultimately it was because of this Congresswoman's desire to spare her union constituents from the implications of this provision that saved the day.

The implication of that argument was that no Republican authored bill would ever be amended to benefit union members.

Now that we are back on topic, I would also point out that you responded with hyperbole, misdirection and ad hominem attacks.

Making assumptions about how I would feel if a bill were advanced by Republicans, changing the subject and comparing me to radical figures does not in any way advance a "logical" counter argument.

Why not try again and explain to me why after eight years of war, government incompetence at the highest level, constitutional malfeasance on a historical scale and economic catastrophe, all presided over by a Republican President, why I or anyone else should listen to anything you people have to say?

But I almost forgot, everyone who has a different opinion from you and ilk is from the "fringe" and lacks insight into what's really going on. Get over yourself.

 

[gunfyter]

Republicans would have voted down the Bill ... so no worries....

Meanwhile Dems destroy our industries with their plans to raise taxes on the Rich....

 

[400pilot]

The fact is I was and am responding to Republican bashing by you on this thread and the irony that these provisions were put in place by democrats to begin with. I personally do not subscribe to mantra from either side of this argument that all Democrats are good/bad and all Republicans are good/bad. There are members of both parties that I agree with and disagree with.

I certainly support what the congresswoman did, but as a rule I do not trust politicians and question her motivation. Would she have gone to bat for us if we all were not members of a national labor party? It really should not matter if we are union constituents or not. I would like to think that she would have, but I doubt it.

The implication of that argument was that no Republican authored bill would ever be amended to benefit union members.

Making assumptions about how I would feel if a bill were advanced by Republicans...

It looks like I wasn't off in my assumption. In my opinion, this bill never would have made it trough a Republican congress anyway, nor would that provision have even been in there.

...changing the subject and comparing me to radical figures does not in any way advance a "logical" counter argument.

Counter argument to what? I am not disputing the basic facts of what you put forth. Rather, I was just pointing out that your "opinion" about conservatives is, quite frankly, left-wing radical rhetoric. Not only is it false, but is just as bad as saying that all liberals are socialists and communists...which would also be false.

Why not try again and explain to me why after eight years of war, government incompetence at the highest level, constitutional malfeasance on a historical scale and economic catastrophe, all presided over by a Republican President, why I or anyone else should listen to anything you people have to say?

In my opinion, Bush is a RINO. There are many things he did that I agree with, and just as many things he did that I disagreed with. It would take pages and pages to debate the points you made, but to blame everything on him or the party is simplistic and DOES lack insight into what is really going on.

But I almost forgot, everyone who has a different opinion from you and ilk is from the "fringe" and lacks insight into what's really going on.

I would like to point out that you responded with hyperbole, misdirection and ad hominem attacks. You now are making assumptions about my opinion of others who hold different beliefs or viewpoints than I do. Your assumption is wrong. I have good friends who are liberal. I both value and respect their opinions even though I sometimes disagree with them.

Get over yourself.

Yeah...OK. You really should take your own advice...

 

[Sparse]

More from the party of the people. I particularly like how the congressional aide called this story a joke. It's time to elect 535 new members of congress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3pFfOlMbiw