Delta to trim future domestic, int'l capacity

[SSDD]

Look at what's happening today in India. According to CNN they singled out Brits and Yanks. Nothing will kill international travel like a little terrorism.

 

[Noserider76]

I hear the Africa layovers make Flint, Fargo, and Minot on the DC9 look pretty good

Is it true you have armed escorts to and from the hotel is some places and are instructed not to leave the hotel?

What are you...yellow? Seriously they should put an equipment rack with AR-15s and shotguns in the cockpit in case the aircraft needs to be defended. Recurrent will be an extra week next year for weapons training.

 

[General Lee]

My point exactly-

Gen Lee thinks DAL is bulletproof.... no company has ever outlived its incompetence.....We will see how wrong DAL is when they make Airtran eat it and SWA comes in and gives them the super-DDT!

Not a smart strategy, but neither is dumping all the feed and investing heavily is Africa-for God's sake!!! That entire continent has never made any airline any money with the exception of Egypt and S. Africa!

-Just wait, Gen-a couple of years, and I will get a really sweet "told-you-so!"

Wow, I can't wait for you to tell me that. Except, when you do tell me that, you will be one of those guys who is catering the 767(after more of the RJs are parked), and I will say, "yeah, you were right, I should have listened to you. Hey, will you take this cockpit garbage bag for me? Thanks, and hand me a water bottle while you are at it....."

Do you know how many flights we actually have to Africa a day? How many compared to Air France or KLM? They have three times as many flights, and how are they doing? They are buying up other airlines (Alitalia for example). But not every passenger wants to go up to Europe first on their way to America, and if they want to go quicker, they will go on our flights. Are there any other geographical locations we should avoid? Also, we have maybe 6-7 flights a day to Africa. Does that sound like a lot to you, when we have thousands of flights everywhere else?

But, I can't wait until you tell me "how it is" in a couple years. When you do, I will reward you with a small Dasani water, and then say, "wipe down the floor below the toilet please, I think I leaked a bit..."


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Speedbird34]

My point exactly-

Gen Lee thinks DAL is bulletproof.... no company has ever outlived its incompetence.....We will see how wrong DAL is when they make Airtran eat it and SWA comes in and gives them the super-DDT!

Not a smart strategy, but neither is dumping all the feed and investing heavily is Africa-for God's sake!!! That entire continent has never made any airline any money with the exception of Egypt and S. Africa!

-Just wait, Gen-a couple of years, and I will get a really sweet "told-you-so!"

You sorry little man:smash:

 

[crj567]

You sorry little man:smash:

We'll see who is sorry when you wind up getting your balls kicked in by those guys and all their "little 737s."

 

[ACL65PILOT]

We'll see who is sorry when you wind up getting your balls kicked in by those guys and all their "little 737s."

A few things for you genius.
One, you are an RJ driver. If you work for any affiliate that has ties to a major, you do not want to wish ill will on them. In this market problems for them mean problems for you. So do not bite the hand that feeds you. That is just plain stupid.

Two, SWA runs a very organized campaign when they come to a city. I am almost for certain that they will be in ATL in under three years. That is great. DAL knows how to compete with them. We are rational as they are. What you will see if one of two things.
Either they will come in and eat AAI for lunch and watch them fail, or they will merge with them.

Three, you need to realize that many legacy business models have gotten to the point that they can compete with SWA and the like. A few years ago no, but now they can. That is why there was such a blood bath after 9-11. DAL like many carriers has the reach and scope to deal with an attack on their hub.

What I suggest you do is, go do a little research, quit flame bating, and realize that you are proving yourself to be the fool.

 

[RP 04]

ACL65,

Any news on your crews in Mumbai yet?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

All are OK. It happened at the best possible time for us. Do not talk about it anymore on a public board. If you want more info go to the union or company websites.
Happy Turkey Day!!!

 

[GogglesPisano]

Is it true you have armed escorts to and from the hotel is some places and are instructed not to leave the hotel?

"You" is now, "we," Fly4hire.

 

[GogglesPisano]

But still in the minor leagues. Bitterness, they name is crj567. :bawling:

 

[Scope out RJ's]

-Just wait, Gen-a couple of years, and I will get a really sweet "told-you-so!"

Maybe by then you'll take the pacifier out of your mouth.

 

[crj567]

Yep-United is competeing real well against them in DEN, so is Frontier! How is USAir enjoying PHL with SWA kicking the dog snot out of their old "fortress?"

DAL is really making big mistakes these days-international travel runs in cycles-and they are putting far to many eggs in that basket! We are all set for a freefall in intl. demand-it is gonna tank way harder than domestic and take far longer to recover. Even the pacific rim economies are crashing-intl. travel is about to hit a serious roadblock.

I know people who work for major worldwide corporations who used to travel all the time (just a few months ago-all these guys were traveling wide open.). These people are the type of "premium business travelers" airlines love to court. In just a couple of months, the game has changed ENTIRELY for them-these people NEVER fly anymore-emergencies only. NOT GOOD!!!

We have not yet begun to explore the tip of this iceberg. DAL is counting on being "too big to fail," we shall see how true that assumption is in a few years.

-Just remember, all you kool-aid clowns.... I warned you-DAL is trying to kill AirTran, and SWA will take far more out of its butt than AirTran could ever hope to in its wildest dreams! It is clearly not in DAL's interest to kill of the weaker domestic competitor..... You may think you can "compete" with SWA-you are an absolute idiot if you really believe that. Those SWA guys OWN the domestic route structure, and they are about to own ATL.....

I am not a fan of the situation either, but the mistakes DAL'S (I mean NWA's) idiot mgmt. are making will ensure that this scenario becomes impossible to avoid.

-Save these posts-you will find them spooky in a about 5 yrs. Call it flamebait if you wish, but by then, it will be the undeniable truth. SWA will have kicked your teeth in, the international markets will have dried up, and BK will be so nice, you will try it twice!

-All due to the moron mgmt. mistakes I am now outlining for the kool-aid peanut gallery.

 

[Sedona16]

Yep-United is competeing real well against them in DEN, so is Frontier! How is USAir enjoying PHL with SWA kicking the dog snot out of their old "fortress?"

DAL is really making big mistakes these days-international travel runs in cycles-and they are putting far to many eggs in that basket! We are all set for a freefall in intl. demand-it is gonna tank way harder than domestic and take far longer to recover. Even the pacific rim economies are crashing-intl. travel is about to hit a serious roadblock.

I know people who work for major worldwide corporations who used to travel all the time (just a few months ago-all these guys were traveling wide open.). These people are the type of "premium business travelers" airlines love to court. In just a couple of months, the game has changed ENTIRELY for them-these people NEVER fly anymore-emergencies only. NOT GOOD!!!

We have not yet begun to explore the tip of this iceberg. DAL is counting on being "too big to fail," we shall see how true that assumption is in a few years.

-Just remember, all you kool-aid clowns.... I warned you-DAL is trying to kill AirTran, and SWA will take far more out of its butt than AirTran could ever hope to in its wildest dreams! It is clearly not in DAL's interest to kill of the weaker domestic competitor..... You may think you can "compete" with SWA-you are an absolute idiot if you really believe that. Those SWA guys OWN the domestic route structure, and they are about to own ATL.....

I am not a fan of the situation either, but the mistakes DAL'S (I mean NWA's) idiot mgmt. are making will ensure that this scenario becomes impossible to avoid.

-Save these posts-you will find them spooky in a about 5 yrs. Call it flamebait if you wish, but by then, it will be the undeniable truth. SWA will have kicked your teeth in, the international markets will have dried up, and BK will be so nice, you will try it twice!

-All due to the moron mgmt. mistakes I am now outlining for the kool-aid peanut gallery.

Ive been at three part 121 carriers and two part 135. I have close contacts throughout the industry including SWA. Thus far in watching Delta management, they are head and shoulders above anything i have seen prevously. They have done a good job of getting out in front of many of the problems. Not only that but the combined experience of Anderson, Bastian, Hauenstien, and Cortelou is nothing to blink at. These guys have been at not only Delta but NWA, Continental, and a couple foreign carriers and have been doing this for a long time. I have a feeling they have a better idea of what to do than a schoolboy like yourself. I dare say this is the best management team in aviation right now. Frankly I am somewhat surprised how efficiently they got governement approval for the merger...not out of the water yet I realize.

RE international vs domestic, given the choice I would take what we got and where we are going any day over stuck in an oversaturated domestic market alone with many more LCC out there than ever before.

 

[Hamburger]

Somewhere there is a grocery store sold out of tin foil and Corndog flavored Kool-Aid.

Not a smart strategy, but neither is dumping all the feed and investing heavily is Africa-for God's sake!!!

You've never been to Atlanta?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

And if you had any business experience, you would realize that the travel pull back is a knee jerk reaction. Most companies do this when the economy tanks. They wait to see what their accountants say and then start traveling again.
My father-in-law's company just did this, and guess what. They looked at their numbers and started their crazy travel schedules again. It explains the sharp dip in mid Oct.
Yes, traffic is off, but with the decline in fuel, it is no where near as bad as it could be.

Lets see how loud you are laughing in a few months as they park all of these RJ's.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Yep-United is competeing real well against them in DEN, so is Frontier! How is USAir enjoying PHL with SWA kicking the dog snot out of their old "fortress?"

DAL is really making big mistakes these days-international travel runs in cycles-and they are putting far to many eggs in that basket! We are all set for a freefall in intl. demand-it is gonna tank way harder than domestic and take far longer to recover. Even the pacific rim economies are crashing-intl. travel is about to hit a serious roadblock.

I know people who work for major worldwide corporations who used to travel all the time (just a few months ago-all these guys were traveling wide open.). These people are the type of "premium business travelers" airlines love to court. In just a couple of months, the game has changed ENTIRELY for them-these people NEVER fly anymore-emergencies only. NOT GOOD!!!

We have not yet begun to explore the tip of this iceberg. DAL is counting on being "too big to fail," we shall see how true that assumption is in a few years.

-Just remember, all you kool-aid clowns.... I warned you-DAL is trying to kill AirTran, and SWA will take far more out of its butt than AirTran could ever hope to in its wildest dreams! It is clearly not in DAL's interest to kill of the weaker domestic competitor..... You may think you can "compete" with SWA-you are an absolute idiot if you really believe that. Those SWA guys OWN the domestic route structure, and they are about to own ATL.....

I am not a fan of the situation either, but the mistakes DAL'S (I mean NWA's) idiot mgmt. are making will ensure that this scenario becomes impossible to avoid.

-Save these posts-you will find them spooky in a about 5 yrs. Call it flamebait if you wish, but by then, it will be the undeniable truth. SWA will have kicked your teeth in, the international markets will have dried up, and BK will be so nice, you will try it twice!

-All due to the moron mgmt. mistakes I am now outlining for the kool-aid peanut gallery.

I'll translate the above jibberish:

:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

Its easy to understand why this diaper wearing troll is so angry. Delta is parking rj's by the hundreds, literallly, and even Bastain was quoted as saying that he wants out of the rj business. I understand your fear kid, and can sympothize, but after reading the above, maybe I was wrong. Take the pacifier out of your ass!

 

[MJ42]

I'll translate the above jibberish:

:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

Its easy to understand why this diaper wearing troll is so angry. Delta is parking rj's by the hundreds, literallly, and even Bastain was quoted as saying that he wants out of the rj business. I understand your fear kid, and can sympothize, but after reading the above, maybe I was wrong. Take the pacifier out of your ass!

Give the guy a break scope. Looks as if he's an ASA or Comair guy who was rejected by DAL(and others, too) and now will be stuck at a regional for the foreseeable future. Now that he sees backward movement coming at the regional level he feels threatened. Maybe this will enlighten you on this guys feelings:

"Envy (also called invidiousness) may be defined as an emotion that "occurs when a person lacks another’s superior quality, achievement, or possession and either desires it or wishes that the other lacked it."[1] It can also derive from a sense of low self-esteem that results from an upward social comparison threatening a person's self image: another person has something that the envier considers to be important to have. If the other person is perceived to be similar to the envier, the aroused envy will be particularly intense, because it signals to the envier that it just as well could have been him or her who had the desired object.[2][3]
Bertrand Russell said envy was one of the most potent causes of unhappiness.[4] It is a universal and most unfortunate aspect of human nature because not only is the envious person rendered unhappy by his envy, but also wishes to inflict misfortune on others."

Fits him very well, right? :nuts: Any bets his response will include another type of envy(manhood)? Just a guess, but that's his level of maturity.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Fits him very well, right? :nuts: Any bets his response will include another type of envy(manhood)? Just a guess, but that's his level of maturity.

LMFAO!:laugh:

 

[crj567]

We will have to see who is right...

-It will only take a couple of years. By then the truth will be too obvious to deny..... Taken a look at USAir's financials lately-how has their stock performance been since the vaunted merger? Looks llike they are doing and awesome job-SWA hasn't damaged them a bit! What about United? These investments are a rocketship to riches! Better get onboard while you can!

Maybe you should put your 401K in 100% DAL stock if I am so wrong.... Call your broker tomorrow-get in on the "ground floor."

-SWA will knock your arrogance down a bit... DAL has the opportunity to prevent this kind of foolishness, but it has shortsighted, arrogant managers......Exactly the same folks who ruined NWA.

-This is gonna be a hoot!

 

[MJ42]

We will have to see who is right...

-It will only take a couple of years. By then the truth will be too obvious to deny..... Taken a look at USAir's financials lately-how has their stock performance been since the vaunted merger? Looks llike they are doing and awesome job-SWA hasn't damaged them a bit! What about United? These investments are a rocketship to riches! Better get onboard while you can!

Maybe you should put your 401K in 100% DAL stock if I am so wrong.... Call your broker tomorrow-get in on the "ground floor."

-SWA will knock your arrogance down a bit... DAL has the opportunity to prevent this kind of foolishness, but it has shortsighted, arrogant managers......Exactly the same folks who ruined NWA.

-This is gonna be a hoot!

How about YOU put your money where your mouth is...care to buy SWA stock? Anyone that invests in ANY airline stock is stupid.

How will ASA be affected in your scenario, genius? Looks like I'd be worried if I were in your shoes, thankfully, I'm not!

That DAL rejection has really gotten to you.:crying: