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Delta talks worry Congress
BY MALIA RULON | [email protected]
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WASHINGTON – A merger between Delta Air Lines and either Northwest Airlines or United Airlines hasn’t even been announced, but talk is already starting to swirl around Capitol Hill.

Lawmakers don’t officially have a role in the regulatory process concerning mergers – that is handled by the Justice Department’s Antitrust Division.

But the House and Senate Judiciary committees have oversight of the Justice Department, giving them the ability to investigate and examine any proposed deals or antitrust issues. In that capacity, their opinion can influence financial backers and thus have a big effect on whether the deal moves forward.


House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., and Rep. Jerry F. Costello, D-Ill., chairman of the aviation subcommittee, are reportedly considering hearings – if or when a merger is announced. Rep. John Mica of Florida, the top Republican on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee also said publicly that he wants hearings on any proposed deal.

Meanwhile, Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky’s lawmakers are bracing for the fight.

Delta has a hub at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport in Hebron, so hundreds, if not thousands, of jobs could be on the line should the airline merge with another carrier and decide to close or shrink the hub.

“I just could never support a merger that would dramatically hurt Cincinnati,” said Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Miami Township Republican who is a member of the transportation committee.

Schmidt said she would “work against” any merger that would harm Greater Cincinnati, adding that she would support having hearings on both a possible merger and the broader issue of airline consolidation.

“I support a free market approach but only one that will lead to the best services,” she said.

At issue is whether a Delta merger with another large airline would spur the nation’s other large carriers – American Airlines, US Airways and Continental – to also form mergers to stay competitive, a scenario that could result in fewer airlines.

“There certainly are concerns about consolidation of the airline industry and the impact that could have on competition,” said Rep. Steve Chabot, a Westwood Republican who is a member of the House Judiciary Committee’s antitrust task force.

“My principle concern would be what impact a merger would have on consumers and the marketplace,” Chabot said, adding that he’s not “unalterably opposed to it.”

Rep. Geoff Davis isn’t on the transportation or judiciary committees, but he still has a big interest in whether the rumored merger moves forward. The airport is in his district.

Last week, the Hebron Republican released a public statement about the reported merger talks, describing how last year he worked with Delta employees nationwide to defeat a hostile takeover bid by US Airways.

“The entire Delta community and I opposed that takeover bid because of the negative impact it would have had on fares, service, jobs and the local economy of communities across the country, especially our own,” Davis said. “Any potential merger should undergo the same thoughtful scrutiny as the US Airways proposal.”

The U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation held a hearing last year on the US Airways takeover that attracted a standing-room-only crowd and showcased questions from concerned lawmakers of both parties.

So far, Ohio’s two senators aren’t convinced that this time should be any different.

“I talk with Delta employees and management all the time and I have yet to hear anyone make an argument that a merger would be good for Ohio,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown, a Democrat from Lorain in northern Ohio.

Brown added: “I will fight any deal that costs jobs or service to Cincinnati and the rest of Ohio.”

A spokesman for Sen. George Voinovich said the Cleveland Republican is concerned about the local economic impact a merger would have on Greater Cincinnati.

“He is writing a letter to Delta asking them to keep in mind the critical importance of this hub on the economic well-being of the region,” spokesman Chris Paulitz said.



Bye Bye--General Lee
 
So what's YOUR opinion on this article? Discussion?
 
I told you the local politicians would get involved. Ain't no way they will allow jobs in their districts to evaporate...

Funny how they never get that involved in other big mergers like banking mergers that can also lead to serious job cuts and price increases... I guess airlines are just that much more high profile. You can't tell me SWA wouldn't enter CVG if DAL were to reduce its service there... These politicians are attempting to "look effective" to their constituents.
 
Maybe the newly-merged companies will promise to throw a bone to the cities they will be cutting back in...maybe some MX functions or similar to placate the a$$holes in Congress.
 
Burned once, shame on me.......

>> House and Senate Judiciary committees have oversight of the Justice Department, giving them the ability to investigate and examine any proposed deals or antitrust issues. <<

I know politicians come and go but do they remember when they held hearings back in 2001 on the proposed AA/TWA merger/buyout/acquisition? Hope they hold any company officers to their word unlike back then!

I won't hold my breath!
 
So what's YOUR opinion on this article? Discussion?

Well, first I posted the article so people could read it without my opinion. See, fair and balanced. Anyway, I love it when blowhards come on here and say "you won't even know what happened. Whatever the Hedge Funds want, they will get. It's not up to you...." Well, as I stated originally, local politicians will get involved if it affects their constiuents. It will be interesting to watch. Some politicians in states that will benefit will press for this merger, and the ones possibly losing service and jobs will fight it. Common sense.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Well, as I stated originally, local politicians will get involved if it affects their constiuents. It will be interesting to watch. Some politicians in states that will benefit will press for this merger, and the ones possibly losing service and jobs will fight it. Common sense.


Bye Bye--General Lee

I agree. See, it is possible!!!!
 
I told you the local politicians would get involved. Ain't no way they will allow jobs in their districts to evaporate...

Funny how they never get that involved in other big mergers like banking mergers that can also lead to serious job cuts and price increases... I guess airlines are just that much more high profile. You can't tell me SWA wouldn't enter CVG if DAL were to reduce its service there... These politicians are attempting to "look effective" to their constituents.

Exactly. We broke up Ma Bell/AT&T years ago and the parts have come back together. I didnt hear SQUAT about THAT one?!??!
 
These airlines will merge out of necessity. It's that simple. Delta and NWA are not chatting about this because they WANT TO. The NEED TO.

Now, you can let the General thump his chest about who-needs-who, blah, blah...that is academic.

The bean counters at Generals 'mother delta' have looked WAY ahead...way more than the General or anyone else can, and when they did, they took a dump about the size of Hartsfield. And when the pile of crap settled, someone said HOLY $HIT!

And that's what started all this.

The airlines are attempting a first-strike in an attempt to avoid BK. The casualties will come either way....with a loss of jobs due to synergy, or a loss of jobs in BK.

Consolidation has been hiding WAY too long, and the best change for these mega-carriers with massive costs associated with their day-to-day operations is to get together.

Stay tuned.....
 
I'm not "Anti-Southwest" (or AirTran for that matter), but talk I hear on the line at Delta is "we'll make money overseas and let the LCC's have domestic."

That strikes me as so incredibly stupid. You never, ever give up market share! You'll never get it back!

Delta used to have all the gates AirTran has now in Atlanta. You think they'll be getting those back anytime soon?

Sorry, this sounds off-topic, but it goes along with the shrinking of domestic hubs in a merger.

Again, no ill-will to the pilots of any other carrier!!!
 
Ham, I think eventually the LCC will account for most of our domestic feed. I would envision the mega-carriers eventually pulling out of short-haul flying.

An LCC or regional/national carrier will buy 70/80/90 seat birds, and crew them for a fraction of what a legacy carrier can, and those carriers will fly all the short stuff and some of the long stuff.

Eventually, I would see the Legacy carriers flying only long-haul domestic O&D traffic in addition to the high profit margin Int'l.

I think there is money to be made (relatively speaking) on shorter domestic segments, but Legacy's can't fly it nearly as economically as a regional. The cost structure is just too high, IMO.
 
I'm not "Anti-Southwest" (or AirTran for that matter), but talk I hear on the line at Delta is "we'll make money overseas and let the LCC's have domestic."

That strikes me as so incredibly stupid. You never, ever give up market share! You'll never get it back!

Delta used to have all the gates AirTran has now in Atlanta. You think they'll be getting those back anytime soon?

Sorry, this sounds off-topic, but it goes along with the shrinking of domestic hubs in a merger.

Again, no ill-will to the pilots of any other carrier!!!

That's funny, I have never heard any of that on the line. Did we own all of the gates Airtran has now? Um, no. They have always had half of C Concourse and part of D. Have they gotten any more gates in ATL? Ummm, no. We are currently parking 50 and 37 seat RJs, and we haven't decided on getting rid of any of our domestic planes we currently use, and may get some MD90s.

Yes, we have fewer flights at CVG. Why is that? We have moved aircraft around to find better revenue. We had a lot of domestic 767ERs that moved to the INTL sector. Those planes were replaced by 757s, which normal routes were replaced by 738s, which had routes replaced by MD88s and MD90s. Who came out short? CVG. But, they have the highest yeilds in our system, primarily because of no LCC competition there.

So, we will continue to feed our hubs with mainline connections and RJs that make the cut. Will we have widespread point to point service like Southwest or Airtran? Doubt it.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
These airlines will merge out of necessity. It's that simple. Delta and NWA are not chatting about this because they WANT TO. The NEED TO.

Now, you can let the General thump his chest about who-needs-who, blah, blah...that is academic.

The bean counters at Generals 'mother delta' have looked WAY ahead...way more than the General or anyone else can, and when they did, they took a dump about the size of Hartsfield. And when the pile of crap settled, someone said HOLY $HIT!

And that's what started all this.

The airlines are attempting a first-strike in an attempt to avoid BK. The casualties will come either way....with a loss of jobs due to synergy, or a loss of jobs in BK.

Consolidation has been hiding WAY too long, and the best change for these mega-carriers with massive costs associated with their day-to-day operations is to get together.

Stay tuned.....

We need to? Really? Didn't we have a year over year profit for 2007? I think we did. Could we become MORE profitable with a merger? Probably. I don't think any legacy (other than United) needs to or has to merge. Will oil prices go down if we merge? Probably not. There would be synergies, like getting rid of ticket counter people (do you need both at one airport), some ground pounders, some accounting people, and probably some big wig jobs like CFO and COO (do we need two of each?), which could save money. You have to remember that the majority of our profits come during the Spring and Summer months, and that our year over year results show that. You have to maximize your profit during the busy times, and most legacies do just that.

The main reason we are thinking of merging is because Grinstein told creditors that we would be worth $12 billion out of BK, and we are now worth $4.3 billion. (most airlines have lost a lot of worth over the last 2 years) Those creditors want value in their stocks, and they think a merger would bring that. They don't think we will go away if we don't, they primarily want to pump up their own worth.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
I'm not "Anti-Southwest" (or AirTran for that matter), but talk I hear on the line at Delta is "we'll make money overseas and let the LCC's have domestic."

That strikes me as so incredibly stupid. You never, ever give up market share! You'll never get it back!

Delta used to have all the gates AirTran has now in Atlanta. You think they'll be getting those back anytime soon?

Sorry, this sounds off-topic, but it goes along with the shrinking of domestic hubs in a merger.

Again, no ill-will to the pilots of any other carrier!!!

As of recently (last decade or so), Delta isn't really known for making the brightest decisions. I'm sure SWA & Air Tran will be more than willing to further dominate the domestic market.

Putting all of your eggs in the international basket doesn't strike me as the best move. Those markets can go into recession just as quick as our domestic market...but you're banking on some of these Socialist economies having the abiltiy of an economy like ours to rebound. Good luck with all of that.
 

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