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Breaking: Delta Talking to Republic After Mesa Can't Provide Aircraft

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Sources tell us today that Delta Air Lines has asked Republic Holdings to backstop for competitor Mesa Airlines -- because of Mesa's inability to provide aircraft as provided for in its contract with Delta for part of its expanded JFK service.

Under an agreement between Delta and Mesa, Mesa, under its Freedom Airlines operation, is slated to fly 12 37-seat De Havilland Dash 8 aircraft in support of Delta's expanding hub operations out of JFK.

But this week it was announced that Delta was replacing Dash-8 aircraft with Beech 1900s on several Delta Connection flights that are slated to begin next week. Additional new service is slated to begin in September.

Yeah. That's right. Beech 1900s. Goes right along with Delta's latest advertising image of a "sanctuary in the sky" doesn't it?

Today we were told by sources that the problem appears to be that Mesa apparently leased Dash 8 100s from a Canadian lessor. Fine, but one big problem. The aircraft did not have GPWS kits installed.

We understand that Mesa now has one aircraft equipped with the necessary GPWS, but that availability of additional GPWS systems for the aircraft is nil. None to be had. Maybe for months.

As a result, Mesa apparently has only one Dash 8 and 2 1900s available to start the new Delta Connection service out of JFK next week.

Not surprisingly, we understand the folks at Delta are none too happy about this situation. They are so unhappy, in fact, that we understand they have contacted Republic Holdings about providing aircraft.

As one of our sources told us, Republic would certainly have no problem getting 10-12 Embraer 135s up and running to provide feed -- if that is what Delta chooses to do. Tuesday, Republic folks were told, according to one source, "to ramp up."

Not sure how all of this is going to work out -- but it's clear Delta does not want to run its new highly-touted JFK service utilizing Beech 1900s.

As for Mesa, it's clearly not a good week.

This news comes the same week load factors for its new "go!" Hawaiian operation came in lower than what the company had previously indicated. Load factor for July was 73.9%. Not surprisingly the airline promptly announced yet another fare sale for its Hawaiian operation after the traffic numbers were released -- with select $29 one-way fares through the end of the year on sale through the end of this week.

Finally, Mesa posted poor numbers in the DOT Air Travel Consumer Report for June that was released this week. Not only did the airline post a 5% cancellation rate in June, it also posted the most complaints of any airline. On-time performance for the airline was 66.7%.
 
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What did they expect?

Tuesday, Republic folks were told, according to one source, "to ramp up."

Ramp what up? Even if they could get the 135's they are really small as well. What a great start here. Delta should have learned by now, you get what you pay for!:rolleyes:
 
ReverseSensing said:
See, we do make a difference here on Flightinfo.com. :laugh:

Yes, that secret letter writing campaign to Delta that we started last month seems to be working. Keep up the good work fellas. :D

I forget, was the CHQ campaign starting this week, or next week?
 
This news comes the same week load factors for its new "go!" Hawaiian operation came in lower than what the company had previously indicated. Load factor for July was 73.9%. Not surprisingly the airline promptly announced yet another fare sale for its Hawaiian operation after the traffic numbers were released -- with select $29 one-way fares through the end of the year on sale through the end of this week.


Hmmmm.....this sounds familiar. Sounds like Eric Nordling and Celia Stokes are working for Go.
 
You'd think that the people who make these decisions at the major carriers would occasionally talk to each other. If they did, they would have figured out by now that there is a reason Mesa can undercut the rest of the industry...

Maybe we need to teach modern history to all perspective airline managers.
 
sabreliner said:
You'd think that the people who make these decisions at the major carriers would occasionally talk to each other. If they did, they would have figured out by now that there is a reason Mesa can undercut the rest of the industry...

Maybe we need to teach modern history to all perspective airline managers.

They operate the airlines under the Chinese definition of insanity. Making the same mistakes over and over, but expecting a different result every time.
 
Is Comair the big winner here? RP will have to get those 135's from somewhere, and only Comair has the aircraft sitting around to take excess demand.

Either way, its always great to hear news about JO screwing up.
 
Ok, so Delta subcontracts to Mesa who, for lack of ability to deliver, subcontracts to Chautauqua who, for lack of ability to deliver, subcontracts to Comair, who may not be able to deliver as well due to crew shortages. Comair, for lack of ability to deliver, subcontracts the work to a freight operator in the Northeast who offers some nice 35-year-old Chieftains which, in freight configuration, are capable of hauling 16 passengers at a time, so long as they lie on top of one another, since there are no passenger seats. The first class passengers can flip a coin to determine who gets the copilot's seat.

Delta is pleased with their decision, the flights are completed, and the "self-loading cargo" is delivered to its final destination. Mission accomplished.

This industry becomes more amusing almost daily.
 
bvt1151 said:
Is Comair the big winner here? RP will have to get those 135's from somewhere, and only Comair has the aircraft sitting around to take excess demand.

Either way, its always great to hear news about JO screwing up.

Since when did RAH have trouble getting airplanes?

Chew on this-RAH will buy all excess A/C Comair has laying around!
 
embraerdriver said:
Since when did RAH have trouble getting airplanes?

I wasn't aware of any spare 135's Chautauqua had sitting around.

Chew on this-RAH will buy all excess A/C Comair has laying around!

Nice attempt at flame, but there's no possible way Chautauqua could ramp up CRJ's before Mesa could ramp up the Dash's.
 
Actually it is called rallingnment of flying. The 135's are ending up in JFK. The 145's are doing all other flying and Freedumb gets the boot in OCT.


Suck on that
 
SYX328 said:
The 135's are ending up in JFK.

Let's hope not. :( That would make it all the easier for CHQ management to create the "New York" base, to encompass flying out of LGA, EWR AND JFK. :eek: :puke:
 
I'm sure there are plenty E135's sitting around in the desert or something. I know we have a few E135's sitting on the ramp in CMH. There painted in the Albino colors.
 

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