Delta stuck in mud at DCA!!

[DYLIN]

If your numbers are right then you should be able to abort before V1 and stop your plane. Any speed after V1 you better fly that dog!!!

Well, of course.

I think we all know what V1 is.

My point, which you may have misunderstood, is that you don't know how accurate the numbers are and why not use all available runway.

 

[say again]

Nice try you PFT troll! Keep updating your app for Delta. In the meantime, enjoy flying with former Air Tran guys who didn't have to buy their job at SW! At least they'll keep you from runway overshoots you guys have become so good at!

Another lame PFT post! Get some new material bud, yours is quite old. :beer:

 

[WSurf]

Well, of course.

I think we all know what V1 is.

My point, which you may have misunderstood, is that you don't know how accurate the numbers are and why not use all available runway.

Then you would know those numbers are conservative and not based in using reverse if you abort before V1. I hear a bunch of Md80's are running off runways during take offs also

 

[no1pilot2000]

Mud happens!

 

[WSurf]

Gotta get alittle mud on your tires!

 

[outerlimits]

Nice try you PFT troll! Keep updating your app for Delta. In the meantime, enjoy flying with former Air Tran guys who didn't have to buy their job at SW! At least they'll keep you from runway overshoots you guys have become so good at!

I am guessing your not a SWA Pilot.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

They could have benefited from doing the ever so made fun of "747" turn.

The 88 and 90 have a loooong wheel base.

 

[jetflier]

They could have benefited from doing the ever so made fun of "747" turn.

The 88 and 90 have a loooong wheel base.

It's sooo long, that when "position and hold", extending the nose to the runway edge, then using full tiller to bring it back around on to the centerline, isn't enough. You will find that you are still not on the centerline when you roll out.

And you want as much concrete as possible, especially during a flaps 5 takeoff!

 

[WSurf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGeKdNxH4U

 

[180ToTheMarker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGeKdNxH4U

I think I've flown with that captain. Twice

 

[StopNTSing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGeKdNxH4U

Wow. I believe I'd swallow my pride and return to the gate to have those freshly flat-spotted main tires checked out. And if I was riding in the back, my confidence in that crew's abilities & judgement would now be pretty much shot.

It's also a good reminder to us all that as pilots everything we do is probably being observed (and maybe video'd) by someone.

 

[temcgrew]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGeKdNxH4U

Wow! The engines spool up really slow as well. Maybe the power levers were brought up early and it was the one time they spooled up quicker than normal?

 

[dicko]

Wow! The engines spool up really slow as well. Maybe the power levers were brought up early and it was the one time they spooled up quicker than normal?

Funny.

When I was doing upgrade IOE on the 73 the check airmen showed me something "cool". When turning onto the runway centerline prior to takeoff - advance the thrust levers to 40% when you're at 45 degrees to the centerline. By the time you're lined up, the engines will be spooled and you can then hit TOGA.

He then said - "but, if the engines spool asymmetrically, or one fails and you're not quite lined up, you're gonna look like a complete dik".

 

[BuckMurdock1]

When turning onto the runway centerline prior to takeoff - advance the thrust levers to 40% when you're at 45 degrees to the centerline. By the time you're lined up, the engines will be spooled and you can then hit TOGA.

One question; WHY?! Are we in such a damned hurry that we need to save 1-2 seconds by spooling engines as we're turning sharply onto centerline? I see guys do it all the time and I still don't get it--maybe it makes them feel 'cool'..

 

[WSurf]

One question; WHY?! Are we in such a damned hurry that we need to save 1-2 seconds by spooling engines as we're turning sharply onto centerline? I see guys do it all the time and I still don't get it--maybe it makes them feel 'cool'..

Nothing to do with hurrying! Its the boredom of the job for many. Kind of like doing the 747 turn onto the runway! Do you really need to do that??