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2000flyer

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What were these people thinking? Call me old fashioned, but I like a more "traditional" scheme. But, then again, maybe this is traditional?!?!? Even if the stripe was something other than lime green.

Song B757

2000Flyer
 
ugly plane, dumb name, mainline pilots flying with mainline pay in a low cost set up, definatelyy going to be a winner.
 
For some reason it reminds me of the old Val-U-Jet paint scheme. Maybe it needs a picture of a chubby airplane with a happy face on its tail.
 
Since no one else does, I will chime in and say I like it. Green is my favorite color. (Better than the new Northwest scheme with the Lenscrafters logo pointing to the northeast).
 
Long Time Gone said:
ugly plane, dumb name, mainline pilots flying with mainline pay in a low cost set up, definatelyy going to be a winner.


I agree. It's terrible that the Delta pilots are trying to hold on to their compensation packages.

How could it not work? I have been told repeatedly on this board that the lcc's advantage does not come from wages and benefits.
 
I like it simply because it is different.

I get tired of seeing every airline do some bland horizontal stripes followed by a logo on the tail. Kudos for having the guts to break the mold.

I looked around a little and read some articles detailing the features Song will offer. TV, meals, 33" seat pitch, and entetainment while waiting! That will make regular Delta seem like cattle cars...
 
UnstableAviator said:
I get tired of seeing every airline do some bland horizontal stripes followed by a logo on the tail. Kudos for having the guts to break the mold.

You're right, it does look a little moldy.:D

Sorry, couldn't resist.

2000Flyer
 
UnstableAviator said:
I like it simply because it is different.

I get tired of seeing every airline do some bland horizontal stripes followed by a logo on the tail. Kudos for having the guts to break the mold.

I looked around a little and read some articles detailing the features Song will offer. TV, meals, 33" seat pitch, and entetainment while waiting! That will make regular Delta seem like cattle cars...

You are right, they have to be careful how "good" they make things on Song. People will start bailing on the mainline flights for the "low cost" option......because its better service.......wait a second my head hurts.

GO GREEN!!!!:p
 
Thinking about it, I guess if you're employed, making a living, etc., paint it purple with pink poka-dots!

(geez, I hope they wouldn't take that seriously:p )

2000Flyer
 
asarjfo said:
You are right, they have to be careful how "good" they make things on Song. People will start bailing on the mainline flights for the "low cost" option......because its better service.......wait a second my head hurts.

GO GREEN!!!!:p

YA' THINK?

Maybe that is Delta's real goal.
The future of this industry is LCCs and RJs. The traditional "mainline" will be relegated to high yield business cities, trancson, and transoceanic flights.

As for song's scheme... sheesh. As someone said, dumb name, ugly plane, same flawed business model. I'll give them two years.
 
ifly4food said:
YA' THINK?

Maybe that is Delta's real goal.
The future of this industry is LCCs and RJs. The traditional "mainline" will be relegated to high yield business cities, trancson, and transoceanic flights.

As for song's scheme... sheesh. As someone said, dumb name, ugly plane, same flawed business model. I'll give them two years.

Aside from a few new routes, Song is basically replacing Delta Express flying. Delta Express was a limited sucess in that the original purpose was to bypass the hubs with lesiure pax. Thus freeing up the more expensive seats to sell durring the "good" years. Now Delta Express is being replaced with a far better product. Song allready has the passenger base (from Delta Express), gates, pilots, etc.

The only "trick" will be to fill the airplanes. All employees will be paid competitive LCC wages. The pilots will make up the difference by flying planes that can carry 199 pax.

Here is an example (albeight a very simplistic one). For our competition to fly the same 199 pax on the same route.....

Lets take Jetblue. For Jetblue to fly 199 pax they need two A320's, two crew's (pilots and FA's), etc. So for one full Song flight, it will take 2 flights operated by Jetblue to carry the same amount of pax. So all this "the pilots make too much, so the airline is bound to fail", is complete BS. If Song fails, I assure you it won't be because the pilots "make too much".

Maybe some Jetblue guys can help me out with this example...............

A 757 captain at Song earns around $250 an hour. A 757 F/O earns around $150. So thats $400 an hour roughly to pay the pilots. At Jetblue lets say the captain makes $120 an hour and the F/O makes $80 (not sure about these numbers, JeffG a little help here). So thats $200 an hour for Jetblue. Take the two flights Jetblue needs to operate and you get around $400 an hour just for the pilots (never mind you need to spend an extra $40,000,000 on another A320).

Anyway just some observations. Very basic, I know, but you get the idea. This is not a "who is better post" or "who is going to put who out of business post". Both airlines may do fine in this environment, time will tell.

Take care all,

NYR (missed the playoffs for the 6th straight year
 
ifly4food said:
Maybe that is Delta's real goal. The future of this industry is LCCs and RJs.
Are you saying we might someday be flying green-on-white CRJ's with Song Connection painted on the side?

Hey, if the big guys are called Song, maybe ASA and Comair could be Duet...

(Sorry...I think my allergy medicine is kicking in...)
 
Typhoon1244 said:
Are you saying we might someday be flying green-on-white CRJ's with Song Connection painted on the side?

Hey, if the big guys are called Song, maybe ASA and Comair could be Duet...

(Sorry...I think my allergy medicine is kicking in...)

How about "NOTE"....paint 'em purple!:D
 
Wouldn’t Song connection be called “DANCE”…………….couldn’t help it sorry!
 
I'm sure there will be lovely boarding music. Maybe the pied piper can lead the passengers with his flute onto the plane? Toody loo time for boarding!

Will the flight crew have to wear elf costumes?

Man, that is an ugly paint scheme. And a dumb name. Who gets paid to come up with this stuff.
 

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