Delta Pilots

[PurpleChimp]

Don't ever let an unskilled gate agent discourage you guys from what you know is right. If they knew jack, they would support you 110%. They are being walked all over too but are too ignorant to realize it. There are a bunch of Delta guys in my squadron and I know their resolve is like nothing I've ever seen. Delta pilots will not flinch. Delta will cease to exist if mgt does not get their collective head out of their collective a$$. The entire industry is watching and your resolve will prove to be a catalyst for pilot negotiations all over.

 

[737 Pylt]

737 Pylt - OK, why do mainline pilots keep taking regional pilots jobs for less pay? Like the Northwest and US Air pilots have already done.

Who's taken any jobs from regional pilots?? There has been more expansion in the part of the regionals than any other growth in the history of aviation. But we've known you to deviate from the truth, kind of like your "the DL pilots want to take my pass privileges from me."

You keep guessing about other peoples' motivations when you don't know their motivations. Your allegations are not proof of anything.

There's no guessing my young greedy friend. Your lawsuit is based on GREED! I have read your lawsuit. So did judge Glasser, and that is why he threw out 9 of 10 of your claims!

The history of contracts and pay scales during this race to the bottom proves the point that regional pilots need scope within the brand.

You mean like when your CMR brothers took pay concessions for the promise of new aircraft which you were one of those who attacked them? The only point to prove here is that your group (the rjdc) is nothing more than a "greedy bunch" of losers who, when times were good in the 1990's were too lazy to give up their captain's seats and apply to the majors. It was much easier to sue to get something that you didn't deserve. I welcome the CAL scabs back inot the union, at least they wait until we're out of work before trying to steal it!
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[BeachBummer]

1) No, I am not on Drugs nor am I drunk.....

2) Yes, I would still fly even with out a contract and only If I was going to get paid a little less.

3) Oh Yes, Believe it or not, a regional pilot would take your job for half what you are making per hour, there are many guy waiting for your job, only problem is that Delta can not train them while under Chapter 11.


4) Who do you think you all are kidding anyways? Do you all think you will be able to get another job making at least 100k flying or another job period? When an employer sees that you were a pilot for Delta, do you really think they will hire you? Nope! Sorry folks, instead they will think, "Why would we want to hire this guy or gal abanded their last job at Delta, why do we want someone who walked off from their last job?" I would only hire you guys if hell was to freeze over!! Be realistic guys! I am sure some of you all will say, well I have another job outside Delta. Great, clean out your locker, turn in your resignation to the chief pilot and have a good life!

Oh, I am very aware of all the schooling you guys go thru, very aware! I was a pilot until I got my medical condition, so I cannot hold a first class medical. And I am also aware of your contact as well and I hope that ALPO along with Delta Management will come to some sort of an agreement.

And as to the Waaaamblace comment, it’s the pilots for Delta when they don't get there way. Gee, I wish I could buy that new boat this summer.

Any regonal pilot that want to go to the majors wouldn't do the job for half, and if they're smart without a contract! What would be the point. You are an idiot. Your the reason we all think delta gate agents suck.

 

[FDJ2]

Funny thing….I do not remember hearing “Strike” at United when they were in Chapter 11th, but that is because they have a Brain.

Yeah, their management wasn't foolish enough to file an 1113c motion to reject a recently negotiated consensual restructuring agreement with their pilots.

I guess you fall in line with the ready, shoot, aim crowd. Instead of ranting against the pilots, who are simply defending themselves against a misguided 1113 motion filed by management and litigated by a LORENZO lawyer, perhaps you should rant against the management team that filed the motion to begin with in an effort to not honor its obligations to its employees.

 

[FDJ2]

1) And I am also aware of your contact as well and I hope that ALPO along with Delta Management will come to some sort of an agreement.quote]

Then you must know that we already have a restructuring agreement in place, it's just that management wants to reject it. Don't let the facts get in the way of your vitriol and fear Flyguy.

 

[Ty Webb]

Hmmmm . . . . . where is your anger toward the management that put the pilots in this position?

Three years ago, Delta had over $6 Billion in cash . . . . and Leo Mullin peed it away . . . . and then was rewarded with $14 million to leave.

The pilots have given up a third of their pay, and now the company wants to throw out their contract altogether. No contract = no flying. Pretty simple stuff. Even an idiot like yourself should be able to understand that.

 

[Exskydiverdrivr]

Sounds like flyguy801 just wants the rest of you brought down to his level. (Since he can't be a pilot.

Stand tough Delta.

General- why don't you give the Skywest retoric a rest. It's getting old and I for one will NOT fly struck work.

 

[spanky2]

801 Dude / Duddete … you are in way over your pointy little head

“furloaded” … it is spelled “furloughed” … I know, I was FURLOUGHED

“pay cut” … yep, 32.5% in 2004 + 18% + ???

“just a gate agent” … not for long if mgt gets the scope that they want … you will get replaced by a DCI gate agent … working for half of what you make

“comfy jail” … ??

“48% of the Delta pilots are active duty in the military, if they strike, the will lose the pension from the Government too.” … tell us where you dreamed this nonsense

“I am sure there are guys at SkyWest, ASA, Mesa, ect who would love to fly a B757, 737 or even a 767 for half the cost of what you guys make” … you may be correct here but I doubt it as many as you think … heck … you could probably apply for a job …oops, sorry, you aren’t qualified

Do yourself a favor and get informed, know the facts. Life is tough ... it is tougher when you are stuck on stupid.

 

[ferlo]

Flyguy80/whatever your name is,

I have so many problems with your opinion I don't even know where to start so I'll just say stuff your whole post up your as*. That should suffice.

Go Delta Boys!! I've got a blank check for your strike assessment. This Job is going to be worth doing or it won't. Let every F'ing airline go under. They will not build their castle on our backs anymore. Enough!!

 

[SKYMASTER]

United we stand, divided we fall.

If airline management could tear up the contract and throw out the book of federal regs, they would. Then they would have pilots flying over 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. The heck with safety, much less a good place to work.

Delta Pilots have already taken extremely large concessions. If Delta needs more, then why don't they show the numbers and continue to negotiate rather than asking to reject an entire contract! Delta management is completely irrational. Management will cause a strike. Management will shut down the airline. Not the pilots. Plain and simple, don't reject the entire pilot's contract.

I used to be a commuter pilot. I never wanted to work for half or whatever you said.

I don't know why I'm even wasting my breath with you Flyguy801.

 

[Deacon]

bottom line DAL's management has run this company into the ground and are saking the pilots to pick up the mess.........I could list several examples just as an outsider but there isn't enough bandwidth(ie Simplifares,Song, horrible route structure, sitting idle for 4 years, RECORD losses in the BILLIONS/qtr..........................................need more?)

 

[Pan1900]

Frank Lorenzo? Overpaid bus drivers I say. We need to get pilots salaries in line with city bus drivers (or trash collectors if you are a JBLU pilot.)

You would'nt be saying that if your & your families life was on the line with an inflight emergency! You think airplanes get to point A to B by plain luck. It take years of experience, just like a good doctor at a good hosiptal has a better chance of saving your life then a bad hosiptal with an inexperience doctor. Cheapness has a price. Many pilots starting out had to pay their dues spending thousands of dollars in flight school alone never mind college. I still have $60,000 flight school & college debt. Plus, I worked 10 years paying dues by making low income(meaning 30,000$ or less) building up my flying experience, flying for dangerous companies so I could get a $18,000 a year job at a commuter, so I could get a Major airline job 15 yrs later( minus forlough,down economy) & only have 15 years to work before force retirement. At least the Delta pilots are trying to protect whats left in this industry.

 

[Saabslime]

I really feel for what you guys at Delta and NWA are going through and wish you the best possible outcome but the simple fact is there will be no strike(s)
where the outcome would mean liquidation of the company, although I can appreciate the need for publicly taking such a hard-line stance. Deadlines will be extended (look at Delphi), negotiations will continue, and eventually some form of concessions will be accepted. I simply don't believe any one of you would throw away an entire career knowing there will come a day when this firestorm will pass and we can all start working to get back some of the things that make this a great profession. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should roll over and give up. Just don't throw it all away on emotion.

 

[IXLR8]

Do yourself a favor and get informed, know the facts. Life is tough ... it is tougher when you are stuck on stupid.

Great line!

 

[IronCityBlue]

He gets high Marx for style!

I don't want to tick anyone off, Delta pilots are the cause of my vent but I really need to express how I feel.

I do not blame you guys for what you all are doing but do you guys and gals think you are the only people at Delta? Okay, I’d be upset too if I was a 19yr Pilot on the brink of retirement but what about all the people who are above and below the wing (CS and Ramp), Dispatchers (Everyone in OCC), Maintenance people and Admin? They all have families they have to support like the rest of us, we all had to adjust our life styles due to pay cuts, some people who had to be furloaded as well. WE HAVE SUFFERED MORE than you pilots will ever know or can begin to think! You guys are upset because you have to take a pay cut and won't be able to buy that bigger and faster boat or maybe that new Hummer or BMW that you have been test driving?? But you know what! You still will be making the very least of 80k a year, right?? Gee must be nice to make that much!! You see that you are the only ones who are suffering, every one is and right now you guys are the stupidest pilot group right now, have hear it from TSA pilots, ASA pilots, SkyWest pilot and United guys as well. You see how much of a joke you guys are? I am sorry I do not mean to bash but come on, you guys are not the only ones who run the company, yeah I may be a gate agent but I have a family and kids to support just like you guys. Stop acting like a bunch of grade school kids and forget the strike and take in the butt like everyone else is doing at Delta!!

I also read on the company message board that some said the government will not step in… funny, I think you guys are crazy to think they won't but because you will not only shut down the worlds busiest airport and cause economical havoc but hey okay, strike and be like a bunch of babies and watch what happens to you! Yeah, you can not be forced to work but hey I much rather be flying and adjusting my life style than spend some time in a comfy jail wouldn't you?

OH BTW for people who do not know this, 48% of the Delta pilots are active duty in the military, if they strike, the will lose the pension from the Government too.

So go ahead and bash me and I am sorry you guys hate you’re job so much but you should of quit a long time ago I am sure there are guys at SkyWest, ASA, Mesa, ect who would love to fly a B757, 737 or even a 767 for half the cost of what you guys make but that is the difference between a Delta Pilot and a Regional Pilot (some), a regional loves what they do, a Delta pilots are just greedy!

Funny thing….I do not remember hearing “Strike” at United when they were in Chapter 11th, but that is because they have a Brain, common sense and love there jobs! If they did, I sure missed it.

Again, sorry to bash or hurt feeling. This is what many of US think about you pilots

Hey flyguy, the Communist Party called. They want their rhetoric back.

Nice try Pinko.