Delta Pilots Association (DPA)

[Diesel-9]

Anyone know how many are signed up? Hear that the company is interested in early contract talks. Rumor of something brewing (buying someone or somethings) and wanting labor peace for the banks and financing. Or could they be getting fearful of loosing control of DALPA (OPERATION BOHICA) to DPA. What would trigger a vote for a new union?

 

[On Your Six]

Anyone know how many are signed up? Hear that the company is interested in early contract talks. Rumor of something brewing (buying someone or somethings) and wanting labor peace for the banks and financing. Or could they be getting fearful of loosing control of DALPA (OPERATION BOHICA) to DPA. What would trigger a vote for a new union?

I think I read from another site that around 4000 signed up for the DPA, and another 2500 or so would be needed to force a vote.(50.0000001%) If the negotiations for the upcoming contract don't go well, I could see that vote eventually happening. I am pro-ALPA, but they do need to make sure we get a great pay package etc, especially with the recent profits. As far as mergers or expansion, there are plenty of rumors, but that's all they are.


Godspeed!


The OYSter

 

[B6Driver]

4,400
Members and growing!

 

[ultrarunner]

I think the more large carrier pilot groups that take control of their own group, the better off they will be. ALPA had it's time, and it's over.

A pilot union should be able to take care of their own, and when you have a national office that want's to take care of itself, you have a massive conflict, simple as that.

Internal organizations can and are quite powerful. And nowhere is this more prevalent than APA and SWAPA. There are many examples, like it or not, of those two organizations looking out for no one other than it's own......and that's how it should be!

 

[St. Nic]

I think the more large carrier pilot groups that take control of their own group, the better off they will be. ALPA had it's time, and it's over.

A pilot union should be able to take care of their own, and when you have a national office that want's to take care of itself, you have a massive conflict, simple as that.

Internal organizations can and are quite powerful. And nowhere is this more prevalent than APA and SWAPA. There are many examples, like it or not, of those two organizations looking out for no one other than it's own......and that's how it should be!

USAPa is as affective as APA or SWAPA. We are making tremendous progress in industry standard contract and have preserved DOH as the bedrock for our industry. The teamsters are very impressed with USAPA

 

[Dan Roman]

USAPa is as affective as APA or SWAPA. We are making tremendous progress in industry standard contract and have preserved DOH as the bedrock for our industry. The teamsters are very impressed with USAPA

I gotta ask, did you keep a straight face when you wrote that?

 

[doh]

I gotta ask, did you keep a straight face when you wrote that?

Of course he did. Reread 1984.

 

[Hamfighter]

Signed up online with DPA months ago, but finally sent my card in last night. Thanks for the reminder!

 

[Scoot 11]

USAPa is as affective as APA or SWAPA. We are making tremendous progress in industry standard contract and have preserved DOH as the bedrock for our industry. The teamsters are very impressed with USAPA

:laugh::laugh:
I especially liked the part about industry standard contract.

 

[Sandhawk]

USAPa is as affective as APA or SWAPA. We are making tremendous progress in industry standard contract and have preserved DOH as the bedrock for our industry. The teamsters are very impressed with USAPA

The sad thing is, he is probably delusional enough to believe it!

:laugh:

 

[Mamma]

USAPa is as affective as APA or SWAPA. We are making tremendous progress in industry standard contract and have preserved DOH as the bedrock for our industry. The teamsters are very impressed with USAPA

Did you really just say that? If USAPA wasn't such an anchor on industry wages they would be a laughing stock.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

USAPa is as affective as APA or SWAPA. We are making tremendous progress in industry standard contract and have preserved DOH as the bedrock for our industry. The teamsters are very impressed with USAPA

"Tremendous Progress" and "Industry Standard" in the same sentence. :beer:

 

[Mamma]

USAPa is as affective as APA or SWAPA. We are making tremendous progress in industry standard contract and have preserved DOH as the bedrock for our industry. The teamsters are very impressed with USAPA

Delusional.

Teamster Merger Attempt

Since its inception, USAPA leadership has flirted with the Teamsters to provide representational services. An alliance was formed shortly after the election to align the goals of the Airline Division and USAPA. After the Temporary Injunction was issued by Judge Conrad, many BPR members and outside supporters such as USAPA founder Steve Bradford supported a full merger with the Teamsters.
USAPA President Mike Cleary appointed an ad-hoc committee to study the feasibility of a merger and the impact it would have on the date-of-hire objective. Teamster Airline Division President David Bourne told USAPA that the Nicolau Award would be inherited and could not be overturned.
Before the issue could ever move forward, Teamster President James Hoffa Jr. wrote a letter to Mike Cleary declining a merger at this time citing other organizing obligations. It is widely believed that Hoffa did not want to involve the Teamsters before a joint contract with the Nicolau could be implemented. Hoffa was also concerned that a possible deal with American Airlines would cause the property to leave his organization for the larger Allied Pilots Association (APA) once the merger was consummated.

 

[St. Nic]

Delusional.

Teamster Merger Attempt

Since its inception, USAPA leadership has flirted with the Teamsters to provide representational services. An alliance was formed shortly after the election to align the goals of the Airline Division and USAPA. After the Temporary Injunction was issued by Judge Conrad, many BPR members and outside supporters such as USAPA founder Steve Bradford supported a full merger with the Teamsters.
USAPA President Mike Cleary appointed an ad-hoc committee to study the feasibility of a merger and the impact it would have on the date-of-hire objective. Teamster Airline Division President David Bourne told USAPA that the Nicolau Award would be inherited and could not be overturned.
Before the issue could ever move forward, Teamster President James Hoffa Jr. wrote a letter to Mike Cleary declining a merger at this time citing other organizing obligations. It is widely believed that Hoffa did not want to involve the Teamsters before a joint contract with the Nicolau could be implemented. Hoffa was also concerned that a possible deal with American Airlines would cause the property to leave his organization for the larger Allied Pilots Association (APA) once the merger was consummated.

Pure westie propaganda! The teamsters are looking at forming an alliance with USAPA. And the Nic is not the seniority list, just a proposal- the 9th circuit said so. This is about independant unions and DPA is just another chink in the ALPA armor.

 

[Flyer1015]

Next time, don't agree to binding arbitration. It is binding, after all.

 

[Flyer1015]

USAPa is as affective as APA or SWAPA. We are making tremendous progress in industry standard contract and have preserved DOH as the bedrock for our industry. The teamsters are very impressed with USAPA

I refuse to believe any pilot could make that statement with a straight face! Your DOH dreams have hampered your pilot group since 2007. 5 plus years, and still the same wages. In another 5 years, US East will have many retirements and eventually it will reach a point where the remaining East crowd will be outnumbered by the West and newhires at the East who just want to move on with the Nic.

 

[shon7]

Next time, don't agree to binding arbitration. It is binding, after all.

amen.

USAPA still makes for an interesting soap opera though. Pure entertainment

 

[Whine Lover]

" industry standard contract "

Uh...In case any of you missed it...that would be piss poor wages that are less than those of 20 years ago.

Be careful what you ask for...

How about an "Industry Restoring Contract" (?)

Just a thought.

Discuss.

 

[St. Nic]

Its just lost on me how people can think a 17 year never furloughed pilot should be put behind a rookie new hire. Whats wrong with you people??? Wait until it happens to you and you're beloved ALPA screws you! You just wait! Then you will be happy to get an independent union.

 

[Mamma]

Its just lost on me how people can think a 17 year never furloughed pilot should be put behind a rookie new hire. Whats wrong with you people??? Wait until it happens to you and you're beloved ALPA screws you! You just wait! Then you will be happy to get an independent union.

Really, its the binding arbitration that you agreed to. Your pilot group did not like the result and they went "full retard." You never go full retard. You should do the honorable thing and honor your obligations.