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Delta owes $3.15 Billion to pensions

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Delta Puts Figures to Its Pension Bill

Airline Owes $3.15 Billion
From 2006 Through 2008;
Cash Is Sufficient, for Now
By EVAN PEREZ
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
May 5, 2005

Delta Air Lines, shedding light on its escalating pension troubles, said it must pay $3.15 billion to fund its employee-retirement plans over the next three years.

The third-largest U.S. airline in terms of traffic said in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing yesterday that in addition to the $450 million it will spend this year to meet its minimum funding obligations, it now estimates its funding obligations to retired workers will grow to $600 million in 2006, $950 million in 2007 and $1.6 billion in 2008. Delta hasn't disclosed its funding obligations previously, though the carrier has warned in the past that its growing obligations posed a threat to its efforts to restructure and avoid a bankruptcy-court filing.

The disclosure comes as Delta struggles with high fuel costs and weak ticket prices brought on by competition. Delta recently reported a first-quarter loss of $1.07 billion. The airline narrowly avoided a bankruptcy-court filing last autumn, but it is likely to again face cash concerns later this year if it can't raise more financing through asset sales or the equity market.

The company said it had $1.8 billion in unrestricted cash at the end of March. But with the busy summer travel season approaching, Delta isn't likely to face an immediate cash crunch.

Of the $3.15 billion, about $2.6 billion stems from its defined-benefit pension plans, which are the subject of pension-relief legislation pending in the Congress. Delta, Northwest Airlines and several other airlines are pushing the legislation, which would allow the loss-plagued airlines to stretch out the time they have to fund their obligations to 25 years and switch some employees to cheaper retirement-benefit plans. In its SEC filing, Delta said if the pension-relief legislation becomes law, its funding obligations would be significantly lower, but it didn't say by how much.

The airlines and their supporters in Congress have said that the legislation would help the airlines avoid having to possibly seek a taxpayer-funded bailout by government insurer Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. Rival carriers UAL Corp. and US Airways Group Inc. both have moved to dump their pensions on the PBGC. Critics of the legislation, including discount airlines, call the legislation an unfair bailout of the big airlines.

Delta's pension plans are underfunded by about $5.3 billion, meaning that even with the estimated required payments Delta's pensions would still be short of their full obligations. Airline pensions are underfunded by about $31 billion and have added to worries that the PBGC may be unable to guarantee benefits promised to workers.

Separately, Skyway Airlines, a unit of Midwest Airlines, said it ended discussions with Delta to operate a fleet of regional jets. Delta announced it was signing on Mesa Air Group Inc. to operate regional jets on connecting flights.

Write to Evan Perez at [email protected]
 
Does anyone else find it disgusting that the airlines are even permitted to TOUCH a pension???!!! PBGC or otherwise???

Delta (Ual, USAir, etc.) has known about their pension obligations since they negotiated the contract with affected employees in the 1960s!!!

Seems that they would have been a little bit more conservative with that cash -- set it aside for its intended purpose.

How do you tell a 59 year old pilot who has been COUNTING on his pension for 30+ years -- "whoops! We screwed up and we're not going to be able to pay you that money we promised. Hope you weren't counting on that for your retirement!"

Disgusting.
 
FurloughedAgain said:
Does anyone else find it disgusting that the airlines are even permitted to TOUCH a pension???!!! PBGC or otherwise???

Delta (Ual, USAir, etc.) has known about their pension obligations since they negotiated the contract with affected employees in the 1960s!!!

Seems that they would have been a little bit more conservative with that cash -- set it aside for its intended purpose.

How do you tell a 59 year old pilot who has been COUNTING on his pension for 30+ years -- "whoops! We screwed up and we're not going to be able to pay you that money we promised. Hope you weren't counting on that for your retirement!"

Disgusting.

Ever hear of the Federal government? Same thing.
 
But I'm sure that the pensions of all the top airline executives are never touched. Kind of sad that the same management which takes airlines into bankruptcy always have their salaries/pensions saved.

Oh yeah I forgot in order to retain these great executives we have to maintain their high salaries, wow I wish I could be a member of that club.
 
FurloughedAgain,

I certainly agree your sentiment that it is terrible to have a pension pulled from under you. What is the solution? In other words, how are the airlines with pensions going to compete with all the new ones that have less expensive plans? It is easy to blame it on evil management, that only goes so far and then you have to face the reality of business in this century.
 
I believe Delta, Northwest and others are attempting to persuade the gov't to stretch the payments out vs. pushing the obligation back on the government. That makes a lot more sense given the economic problems of all of the airlines at the moment. At least Delta isn't attempting to pull the plug altogether... If Delta can't necessarily afford it now (no big surprise), it is in everyone's best interest to let them stretch out the payments - let's hope Congress understands that...
 
On Your Six,

I hope they can spread out the payments, as the current requirements are outdated and illogical. However, the payments don't go away. Delta will attempt to pull the plug altogether, the problem is not going away.
 
The sad thing is that for once (and I stress once) you can't really blame this one on management. The law would not allow them to put money in when they were "overfunded" just 5 years ago (not that I'm saying they would have... but the law prevented them from adding to the overfunding - the gov't looks at that like a tax shelter). The market tanked and the funds became severly underfunded at the worst possible time in airline history and now the "law" requires the airline to play catch up when they wouldn't allow normal payments during good times.

These bills (both house and senate versions) are a good thing IMHO. It allows all companies (not just airlines) that got wacked by the dot.com bust/911 combo to stretch out the payments over 25 years - payments that might not ever be required if the market recovers. In Delta's case that's a differeance of $5 BILLION over 3 years vs. 25 years (or a savings of about $800 million/year - considereing fuel is costing an extra $600 million/year right now....)
 

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