Delta off the runway again

[redflyer65]

Hell, Northwest used to go off the end of the runway 1-2 times every winter in TVC and nobody made a big deal about it.

Only difference is the water at the end of the runway in LGA and the large earthen berm. Could have been much worse with a fuel leak and fire. Still glad no one was hurt. I don't wish that on anyone.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

There's EMAS there Red...probably would not have been as dramatic as you described

 

[redflyer65]

With the nose of the MD-80 hanging out over the water? Yea, you had another 80 feet and the whole plane would have been a submarine.

I guess the double breasted jacket would have really been appropriate at that point.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Wow Red...somebody debates you like an adult and you fall back into Petulent child mode again.

Know anything about that stuff at the end of the runway?

 

[SWA Bubba]

With the nose of the MD-80 hanging out over the water? Yea, you had another 80 feet and the whole plane would have been a submarine.

I guess the double breasted jacket would have really been appropriate at that point.

Wow Red...somebody debates you like an adult and you fall back into Petulent child mode again.

Know anything about that stuff at the end of the runway?

I think you guys may be having two different arguments. Red was talking about the recent LGA off-runway incident, where the MD-80 went off the side of the runway and rested on the embankment with the nose just over the water. Until they start lining both sides of a runway with EMAS, it's not gonna' help in this particular type of situation.

Bubba

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Scroll up Bubba....he was making reference to water at the end of the runway and I referenced EMAS and how his dramatic story wouldn't be one with that stuff there.

 

[redflyer65]

Bill,

I'll back up a little. I was actually defending Delta in my first post about NW going off runways frequently in TVC. It was never a big deal and this seemed to get more attention. Because it was LaGuardia instead of Traverse City maybe? More media etc. You get the point.

Emas in LGA vs. none in TVC. Not really my point.

Try to relax, I didn't mean anything bad. Don't be hardwired to bitch because I'm SW. It's all good brother.

 

[redflyer65]

Bill,

Does it look like there might have been a system failure ALONG with a runway that was more contaminated? Serious question.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Flew commuters in the '80s and knew that when landing on 13, once you passed the intersection of 4/22 and R, the standing water would cause the A/C to hydroplane. Used to land wing low as opposed to landing with a crab. Common knowledge for the day.

Curious how the wing low stopped better than crab. Not disputing, just wondering.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Directional control first, then worry about stopping.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Bill,

Does it look like there might have been a system failure ALONG with a runway that was more contaminated? Serious question.

We can't even speculate. If it was something jumping out at the NTSB, they would have released it as a causal factor or something they are looking into in the press briefings.

 

[75 Driver]

Directional control first, then worry about stopping.

There it is.


In the touchdown zone, tracking the centerline. Works every time.

 

[Freebrd]

That all ended on or about GL's 5000th post, we're way past that stuff. You need to look no further than GL for the reason this site is what it is today ("cream of the crop", "unprofessional" etc). Speaking of, where is that dillweed?

Think she took the hint no one cared for her posting/pasting 'skill's and her 'advice' to us Regional pucks. Or maybe ya'll pissed her off with your comments. Whatever, FI already ruined. Good riddance I say.

 

[General Lee]

Think she took the hint no one cared for her posting/pasting 'skill's and her 'advice' to us Regional pucks. Or maybe ya'll pissed her off with your comments. Whatever, FI already ruined. Good riddance I say.

The only advice you need to follow is to go back to Vietnam. You will never advance your "career" here. It's better for you to go back and get a right seat job in ATR-72s and eat egg rolls every night. Seriously, you are pathetic and can never be helped.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

Ooh little bit touchy there Jennifer. Back under your rock now.

 

[Gorditas]

This forum reminds me of a scene from "Crocodile Dundee." The TV in his hotel room is turned on, and an "I Love Lucy" episode is on. He replies with something along the lines of, "Yep. That's what I saw years ago when I saw the TV for the first time" and turns it back off. I haven't been on this site for several years, and had pretty much the same reaction with this thread. I guess I haven't missed much!

 

[Freebrd]

Welcome back!