Delta New Hires

[FUZZO]

Originally asked this in another thread, but for those who have been hired on at Delta and started class when did you find out domicile and aircraft? Thanks.

also any other information that would be beneficial for other new hires please don't hesitate to offer.

 

[QXEQ200]

Originally asked this in another thread, but for those who have been hired on at Delta and started class when did you find out domicile and aircraft? Thanks.

also any other information that would be beneficial for other new hires please don't hesitate to offer.

They tell you on the first day of class. My class was March 19th and we all got the md88 in NYC.

 

[FUZZO]

Thanks I appreciate that.

 

[General Lee]

You may get awarded something in class, but then bid and get awarded something else. Unfortunately you will still have to complete training on the first thing you were awarded, like the MD88 in NYC. We have recently had a couple newhires bid and were awarded 767, one on the INTL category at JFK, and the other the domestic 757/767 in ATL. They will most likely go ahead with the MD88 training, go through IOE, and a couple months later go back to ATL and get trained on the 757/767. We will be having more bids in the near future for our ex TWA (AA) 757s that are coming in July (2 a month for a total of 13 planes, initially). Expect a bid every couple months. And, you can also bid a different base for the same equipment during those bids----for example you can bid ATL MD88 from NYC MD88 and it would not increase any seat hold. A seat hold is 2 years for anything that you get that YOU BID FOR. If you are assigned MD88 NYC for your initial bid, then you can bid off of it immediately on the next bid. If in training there are some 738 slots and you try to get SLC 738 and get it, then you get a 2 year seat hold. Clear as mud.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Is it correct that the class bids on the openings and then is assigned what they can hold.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

You may get awarded something in class, but then bid and get awarded something else. Unfortunately you will still have to complete training on the first thing you were awarded, like the MD88 in NYC. We have recently had a couple newhires bid and were awarded 767, one on the INTL category at JFK, and the other the domestic 757/767 in ATL. They will most likely go ahead with the MD88 training, go through IOE, and a couple months later go back to ATL and get trained on the 757/767.

Why? That seems like a huge waste of money for training.

 

[Pat Fabin]

Well, in previous hiring cycles a hew hire would normally not be able to get into a heavy so quickly. We only have initial qualification programs setup for the narrow-bodies, so thats why you are hired into those first, then you can go where you want if you can hold it.

They are developing a 767 syllabus for new hires now, since vacancies are not being filled by the pilots we currently have.

 

[sabreliner]

Is it correct that the class bids on the openings and then is assigned what they can hold.

If there are different things to choose from, then yes. So far, all MD-88''s except for one that had a single 73N opening.

 

[schmooze]

You may get awarded something in class, but then bid and get awarded something else. Unfortunately you will still have to complete training on the first thing you were awarded, like the MD88 in NYC. We have recently had a couple newhires bid and were awarded 767, one on the INTL category at JFK, and the other the domestic 757/767 in ATL. They will most likely go ahead with the MD88 training, go through IOE, and a couple months later go back to ATL and get trained on the 757/767. We will be having more bids in the near future for our ex TWA (AA) 757s that are coming in July (2 a month for a total of 13 planes, initially). Expect a bid every couple months. And, you can also bid a different base for the same equipment during those bids----for example you can bid ATL MD88 from NYC MD88 and it would not increase any seat hold. A seat hold is 2 years for anything that you get that YOU BID FOR. If you are assigned MD88 NYC for your initial bid, then you can bid off of it immediately on the next bid. If in training there are some 738 slots and you try to get SLC 738 and get it, then you get a 2 year seat hold. Clear as mud.


Bye Bye--General Lee

General,

How long to hold something in CVG?

 

[DAL737FO]

General,

How long to hold something in CVG?

Ha ha ha ha. I'm a 00 hire and can't hold it.

 

[IAHERJ]

Why? That seems like a huge waste of money for training.

Here at CAL, a good friend of mine started in '05 on the 737. Flew it for 3 months then went to the 757/767. Flew it for several months and is now on the 777. No seat lock as long as you are "moving up". That means he might hold 737 CA on the August bid and be released from his 777 lock due to "moving up" and be sent to training for the 4th time in 2 years. I did 2 training cycles my first year as well but am content to stay on this aircraft for a while.

IAHERJ

 

[General Lee]

Why? That seems like a huge waste of money for training.

We used to have 1 year seat holds, so every year you could switch to a new aircraft. That was great for us, but bad for the company, and of course they got that changed to a two year seat hold in this last concession. I think they wanted a 3 year hold.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[michael707767]

Why? That seems like a huge waste of money for training.

the short answer is they need you to fly the 88 for a couple of months before you move up to the 767. Add to that, training has to happen in seniority order. So if a bid closes today and a new hire got the 767, he/she may not go to training for up to six or seven months while waiting for all those senior to get in training. Should Delta have the new hire sitting around doing nothing for those six months?

 

[DonVerita]

Would a 767ER INTL pilot also be required to fly the 757? Or is that requirement only for Domestic 767/757?

What is the timeline for having the newhire 767 syllabus ready?

 

[General Lee]

Would a 767ER INTL pilot also be required to fly the 757? Or is that requirement only for Domestic 767/757?

What is the timeline for having the newhire 767 syllabus ready?

THE "ER" or INTL category flies both. Even the JFK guys occasionally fly the 757, right now on Aruba turns from JFK. When we start getting the 757-200ERs from AA (ex TWA birds) in July, they may start flying to Western Europe from JFK. The ATL ER guys fly the 757 a lot, especially to South American hotspots like Bogota, Quito, Guayaquil, San Jose (Costa Rica), Guatemala City, St Martean, etc. The domestic guys do fly a few INTL cities with the 757 also--like Mexico City. You get a common type rating on both.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[schmooze]

Ha ha ha ha. I'm a 00 hire and can't hold it.

Well then, I guess that pretty much sums it up!

Fly safe!

 

[Floatplane]

How long would it take to hold SLC as a new hire?

 

[On Your Six]

How about an LA base? I hear that Delta may place soon-to-be announced 787s out of sunny but super-expensive LA...

 

[ugasucks]

Of the ten new hires in the feb 5th class, 5 88's atl, 4 88's nyc, 1 73N nyc. After the bid in late feb- 2 got 76/75 atl, 2 got 76ER NYC and the 2 left on the 88 in NYC got ATL on the 88.

 

[AirMorgan]

So getting SLC is going to take a while. Are we talking months or years? Also, how many have been hired this year so far?

 

[General Lee]

So getting SLC is going to take a while. Are we talking months or years? Also, how many have been hired this year so far?

No, you could hold the MD90 as an FO fairly soon, maybe within 6 months. The other planes with a domicile there are the 757/767 and the 738. Those are fairly senior, but you might be able to sneak onto one of those on a bid, but expect to be on reserve for a few years.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

"....Is it correct that the class bids on the openings and then is assigned what they can hold....?"

You bid on the vacancies (unfilled) seats from previous bids and shortages. As you progress through training and your career, addional vacancy will occur (really weekly as people retire and other go to training). When enough vacancies occur, there will be a bid. You put in your choice(s) and when it gets down to you, if anything you want is still open, you'll get it.

"....Why? That seems like a huge waste of money for training...."
Maybe, but on the day you are hired there truly is that specific vacancy; you'll get the option for any M88/73NG vacanies that occur. Would it be fair for you to be stuck with the M88 for two years while a new hire coming aboard next month gets the 767 Int'l vacancy that you would have wanted?