DELTA may recall

[Heavy Set]

I heard that a DALPA spokeswoman mentioned 30-50 furloughees recalled per month likely. This hasn't been confirmed but it sounds like a reasonable number. My question - where will they put them given that 30-40 airplanes have been collecting sand in the California desert?

 

[spanky2]

Fins,
Of the 250 pilots from FM II, only 70-75 are currently unassigned.

 

[sidesaddle]

recall delusions

So the trigger was reached...Big deal. The company is in debt to it's eyeballs, they are hemoraging millions every quarter, and Jet Blue, SWA, and Air Tran are gaining market share at a tremendous rate.

DALPA and Delta are fighting over the crumbs of an increasingly shrinking pie. What matters more than ANYTHING is the company returning to profitabilty and gaining customers. Then there will be money for recall, to expand and compete with, and for everyone to squabble over. Until then, grievances, rulings, management power struggles, and all the rest of it mean diddly.

I certainly have no illusions about being recalled anytime soon. IMHO the company still is not clear about its strategy or priorities and the union is still griping about Ron Allen. Light at the end of the tunnel? I hope it happens but I don't see it yet.

 

[FlyingSig]

Re: recall delusions

I certainly have no illusions about being recalled anytime soon. IMHO the company still is not clear about its strategy or priorities and the union is still griping about Ron Allen.

I'd say it's still a legit gripe considering Delta is still paying the guy....



.... anyway, mostly I agree with you, I'm not holding my breath that this means anything to me (actually, I'm hoping all the contract crap gets sorted out before I get any phone calls because I have a pretty stable job now finally). I'm a little annoyed that Karen is giving numbers to the media before ALPA even meets with the dark side but considering the "meeting" that was published on the code-a-phone was "cancelled" it wouldn't surprise me if an agreement hasn't aready been reached and she just slipped.



.... to close though, I choose the option that other fellow came up with about picking the thing that annoys Comair pilots the most. I'd do that job for 30% less (relax, it's a joke)

 

[NYRANGERS]

Re: Re: recall delusions

I'd say it's still a legit gripe considering Delta is still paying the guy....



.... anyway, mostly I agree with you, I'm not holding my breath that this means anything to me (actually, I'm hoping all the contract crap gets sorted out before I get any phone calls because I have a pretty stable job now finally). I'm a little annoyed that Karen is giving numbers to the media before ALPA even meets with the dark side but considering the "meeting" that was published on the code-a-phone was "cancelled" it wouldn't surprise me if an agreement hasn't aready been reached and she just slipped.



.... to close though, I choose the option that other fellow came up with about picking the thing that annoys Comair pilots the most. I'd do that job for 30% less (relax, it's a joke)

Karen's office responded to her quote. They said she never gave any numbers, such as 30-50. They also said that that particular reporter has a history of misquotes.

 

[FDJ2]

The arbitrator's ruling did not consider that many of the RPM's to trigger a recall would be flown by DCI. So the question is - now what do we do?

Actually the arbitrator did exactly that.

"we are hereby ordering a procedure designed to require that the recall process commence at the point system-wide ridership, as measured by Revenue Passenger Miles (RPM’s) is equal to that existing prior to September 11, 2001. "

"The term “system-wide” is intended to encompass Delta mainline flying and all Delta Connection carriers."

 

[General Lee]

Fins,

I know what we do---we give any future 70 seaters to our furloughs. Do you have any suggestions of where to put all of these fine pilots? I personally hope we get negotiating, take some sort of a pay cut that would help the company but not "take us for a ride", and order some 100 seaters for the returning pilots. In the mean time, what new aircraft will the "Delta family" be getting? Hmmmmmmm. I also think we should staple you guys to the bottom and have one list.....(with fences for protection of DCI guys)


Bye Bye--General Lee