Delta looks to retired pilots?

[ultrarunner]

.
.
.
Create a "PRP-ALPA" division??
.
.

.
Are those guys even paying dues??
.


Screw that....create their own union.

And I can't imagine they are paying dues. Why would they?
.

 

[bafanguy]

They were the senior guys that wanted 24 hour notice for retirement in the contract. They got it, and now they are still around. The company had no way to tell if people were going to retire or not (until just recently), and couldn't put out bids for people that may or may not go. This was all about the 24 hours notice to retire.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Well, this is what happens when there is NO FRIGGIN' trust in the people in corner offices at the GO. Now everyone is paying the price for that lack of trust. They are a bunch of carpetbaggers.

No relationship works without trust whether it's your family, the country, or the people you work for. That's why Delta is doomed to mediocrity from now on.

 

[Spooky 1]

Interesting how one thinks that this ship will stay afloat. There was a book once upon a time called something like From Good to Great. I think that creep Leo Mullin had all of his managers read it. At any rate in the book, the author interviews Jim Stockdale, the ranking POW during Vietnam. He asks why he, Stockdale survived when any number of excellent men did not. His answer was that many of these men constantly thought things would get better. They would be released by Christmas, and when that didn't happen, by Easter, or some other date. They were constantly being given hope only to have it dashed by the reality of their hopeless situation. Where as Stockdale realized, or at least believed that nothing was going to get better, and as a matter of fact probably get much worse. Consequently he was never disapointed in how things turned out and that enabled him to endure the hardships of reality. They have since coined a term for this mind set. It's called the Stockdale Parallax. Well unfortunetly I am afraid some of our current guys like the General are going down this same path. Delta is doomed to a long and painful recovery, if that. They will never be a significant player in the world airline industry again as long as they keep the same mangagement team and leadership in place. Good riddance to all those low life Bastards! Meet them in a dark alley. F#@k, I would like to meet anyone them in broad day light so they could see it coming straight on.

 

[Pat Fabin]

Spooky,

We could have used you at the CEO conference yesterday!

-PF

 

[TonyC]

You really can blame the PRPs. They were the senior guys that wanted 24 hour notice for retirement in the contract. They got it, and now they are still around. ...

Bye Bye--General Lee

Oh, that's priceless. If they were to blame, why did you vote for PRPs?

The problem was not senior guys. The problem was not 24 hour notice. The problem was the lack of confidence they had in Delta having a retirement program tomorrow. The only reason many would have exercised a 24-hour option to retire was the doubt that retirement would be available in 25 hours. The solution to that problem was for Delta to restore confidence in the pilots that they would not be dumping the retirement program. Well, now you're in bankruptcy, and now they're skipping payments on the pension fund. Wow. Big surprise. The only surprise is that it's taken this long to get to that point.

There's no excuse for needing PRPs any longer. Remember, the IRS is watching.



.

 

[bafanguy]

Spooky,

We could have used you at the CEO conference yesterday!

-PF

From what I read on JPL's newsletter, the message was delivered loud and clear to GG and his band of creeps and carpetbaggers( I also listened to the same message delivered at the last stockholder's meeting where GG's answer was total silence ). Wish I'd been there, but they told the retired guys to stay away and wait for our shot at him on the 28th. DP3 has told us the "lawyers" said he will not be discussing the bankruptcy, but only the recovery plan on the 28th. My, my, my...how convenient...

The problem with all of this outrage is that GG et al will not suffer for one microsecond for their missteps. You need to plan for YOUR future and act accordingly because YOU are the only ones in a position to suffer.